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I don't know about +10 but if the lows aren't so low I could see getting to normal.

My boss at the bike shop I managed in the city loved wearing shorts year round because he thought it showed how much he loved riding bikes in good weather. He'd show up when it was 20 degrees wearing shorts. There's another bike shop owner in Brooklyn that also wears shorts year round for the same reason.

I dunno, I dropped below 10* yesterday and just about got there again this morning. I guess that's mostly normal but it sure does feel significant when you're out in it. Looks like it's going to be more tolerable for the next week or so after tonight which will be nice. It will be nice to see those warmer temps next week to get rid of some of this ice, walking out the front and back doors of my house is a sketchy endeavour at the moment.

Looks like the chances of a white Christmas are pretty low now.

^^That goes back to what I've been saying for the last 2 years. What we've known about all of these different indices and their effects on our sensible weather aren't what they used to be. As the global climate is changing the effects will be different than they have been historically. How we forecast using this new regime is also constantly changing and it shows in how bad short term predictions have been, forget about mid and long term. Another day of striking visuals with the ice still plastered on everything.

I realized later last night that it had to be 1978 not 77 because I was walking home from junior high not elementary school.

I don't think you can put a number to it like that. IMO historic is a combination of things that combine to create a very high impact event. For instance, that May frontal passage that spawned all of those tornadoes that devastated areas around here, that March storm two years ago that knocked the power out for a week here or 4/1/97 where I got 17" in less than 3 hours and hundreds of trees came down and the streets were blocked for 2 days so that I couldn't even get out of my dead end or more than 2 blocks in any direction after me and the neighbors cut the trees out of our street. We were super hungry by the time we could get out to get food. I was walking home from school in Oceanside when that hit. Vis went from normal to 150 feet in seconds, the whole world went silent, cars started sliding off the road into front yards and it was a huge mess. If my memory is right it really only lasted about 20 minutes but we got a few inches. It was 15 years after that before I saw those kinds of snowfall rates again in Lake Tahoe where 10-12"/hr happened several times the winter I lived there and I spent 6 years in the Rockies before that and never saw more than 5-6"/hr.

Yeah 17/9/SSE8 with gusts to 13 is pretty unpleasant.

I wouldn't call what I have on the ground 1" but there's no way it shouldn't count as snow cover IMO. I was actually thinking about that yesterday and decided I'm going to call it good. That means I have 14 days of snow cover this month

That means going outside and it's cold out there man Those pics rarely turn out good anyway so I don't bother. Hmm, that PNA shot looks like a solid potential for a NYE storm.

Still 10° and with the low sun angle it's really pretty with all the ice on everything.

I saw 9° at about 6am, it's up to 10 now. Pretty sunrise through the ice this morning.

10° Some of you lucked out with the snow, I got about 1/4" in the first squall line then nothing more than some random flurries after that. The wind brought down a bunch of ice though so now the streets are as sparkly as everything else.

Looks like another line of snow squalls is gonna roll through here in a while. This isn't even nickel and diming my way up, it's pennies at a time.

Yup that was a good squall for sure. Too bad it was so short, I'd have liked more the a quarter inch but it stuck to everything because this whole place is a block of ice already and with all the salt on the street it's still just wet.

Woohoo a quick 1/4" that stuck to everything because this whole place is a block of ice already.

Wow from nothing to 250 foot visibility in less than a minute! This is awesome These were some of the biggest snow pellets I've ever seen when it started, now it's mostly small grains and big flakes. Cool frontal passage.

Just had a little snow squall move through and the cloud deck thinned a bit so it's back to filtered sunlight, no melting though

I'm a sales rep and travel all over the state, there are some unbelievably affordable spots and many of them are in serious snow zones. The hill towns south of Buffalo and the western Fingerlakes towns south of Rochester are just plain cheap places to live. Problem is persistently wet or white and grey and windy conditions are the norm but the good days are superb. Big snow in the winter making for great skiing and fat biking so if you can handle the cold you're good and beautiful continental influenced days in the summer with incredible skiing, mountain biking and fishing. The people that are making a living out there really seem to enjoy where they live, unfortunately that's getting harder and harder to do.

Well so much for that melting that was going on. Even though it didn't get over 30 where the sun got to things there was significant melting but now the clouds have moved in and the temp is dropping again and the melting stopped. The ice didn't even melt off the power lines, bushes and natural surfaces are still fully encased, the street is still wet but probably not for long, driveway is passable and will have to do but the back patio is still 1/4" thick solid ice and the yard is a crunchy slickery mess as evidenced by the dog sliding down the hill. Is it really Sunday before we get above freezing again? Uggh

Flagstaff AZ is the right place. 2 hours south and it's summer 330 days a year and a few minutes uphill and you get 200+ inches a year. The city itself is at just about 7k feet and is actually a very affordable place.

Yeah sure if the hilltops were a few thousand feet higher ;) It's not an inversion. Just to play by the rules since it is an OBS thread... 28/28/RN This is terrible, going on 18 hours of freezing precip now. Power lines are sagging, trees are leaning, it's just a matter of time before the problems start.

28/28/E2/freezing mist That Somers number might be right, it's been above freezing in most of the town since about 10 this morning. Unfortunately the high spots, like where I live .25 miles from the Somers line, is still stuck at 28.4.

Boy I hope you're right because it's a mess. It took me just under 2 hours to chip all the ice off the cars and scrape a path off the driveway.

I've got more than double that It's scary out there now. I have a feeling it's not so bad on the main streets but my top o' the hill dead end is a skating rink. The driveway is a disaster with .5" of ice and the cars are solid ice. Gonna go spend an hour or 3 getting it cleaned up before it gets cold. Uggh...