psuhoffman

What did you get from that storm? It was like 8” of snow/sleet/freezing rain that ended up a solid glacier that lasted almost until April here. I’d take that again!

With a decent amount of sleet and freezing rain on top of the snow also. Which is good if we want it to survive the rain when we inevitably end up on the wrong side of the boundary for some of the waves to come!

Euro reminds me of a less juiced up cold enso version of PD2.

Euro looks promising

Think of it this way…once past 120 hours each permutation is about equally likely. There are plenty of big members. This run the op happened to be one of the lesser ones which is equally likely looking at the full spread of options. Also this snow is from several waves so a mean of 7” looks exciting but maybe less so when you see the details and it all came 2” at a time from snow to ice to rain events which is what we’re probably looking at. But I thought it was just a win we were tracking frozen events during what was supposed to be our torch week!

Through day 10, which is honestly as far out as it even matters…0z gefs is snowier 0z on top, 18z below

But isn’t that expected to some degree. The best analogs to this pattern are more icy than snowy for our area. That’s why I said I’m less sure of this period. Models often adjust to the analogs of what more typically happens once inside day 7. This is not to say we won’t get snow or can’t even get the crazy amounts some runs show, but are we really expecting that when history suggests more ice and less snow is the more common outcome?

It doesn’t look that bad to me. 2 mid Atlantic snow events and ends with a crazy block. JB is just creating fake drama to get you doing exactly what you’re doing.

Yea. The most likely fail the next 2 weeks is rain. The most likely fail weeks 3-4 is dry imo.

It was a 1-2 day warm up before that next trough digs in.

I can accept this run as an appetizer before the really good pattern sets in

Storm 1 storm 2 total

I’ve never seen the mean look like that. Even after the crazy ridiculous week 2, weeks 3-4-5 are about as snowy as I’ve ever seen a 7 day mean on the weeklies. It finally breaks around March 15.

I’ve never seen this. Ever.

I’m definitely excited for the waves day 7-15 but if we’re going to have a shot at a classic coastal 12”+ snowstorm a couple days after this would be the first (but not the last) opportunity! Wave X is moving into 50/50 and wave Y is about to dig into the TN valley. Which would be around Feb 20 lol.

Bastardi probably predicted it before labor day!

We’re still missing the Nina STJ so even if we do get a more canonical coastal later in the month it might have MECS v hecs top end potential here. But that is just playing the historical odds game. A string of secs MECS level events might be a more likely max outcome from this type pattern coming up.

Agreed. I think the mean looks like that now due to a high probability of a SECS to maybe MECS level event. 2016 the mean looked that way because a decent number of members were already showing 20” outcomes. Similar look from different scenarios.

Last time was 2016

I’m good with some SER with that blocking. Yea some waves could rain but I’m tired of dry and fringed and coastal scrapers and congrats Florida. I’ll take my chances on a wet pattern with blocking and the boundary near us.

Was that you accusing me of big dog hunting about 2 hours ago?

This has some of the highest potential we’ve had in a long time because it’s already cold across the continent before the pattern starts. We’ve had some pretty good patterns over the last 8 years but that all started with some scorched antecedent airmass that took weeks to get fixed. We look to jump right into threats even before the best long wave configuration sets up this time. We could have a very extended window for snow threats. I’m starting to become more optimistic for the reasons above that we can score before the blocking fully matures. The TPV is displaced enough and we have enough cold around that this could be the exception where we don’t have to wait for the pattern to fully mature to start getting snow! I told you twice I wasn’t dismissing before Feb 20 just thought our BEST chances would come then. I was less sure based on the history of TNH patterns. But I’ll admit the pattern is progressing way ahead of schedule and the boundary looks to be setting up further south and I think we do have a better chance to score one of these waves than I initially thought.

What did you do with chuck

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