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48 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Not sure what it’s like by you but here food production is running full tilt. I work for a place that sells parts for the food and beverage industry and most places are currently running non stop. Most places are making it their duty to keep America fed. 

I’m talking about a shortage of money, not food.  Money is going to dry up quick for a lot of people. We aren’t even out of the first inning and people are out of work.  

Edit it I see You thought I meant that gas shortages relate to what’s happening.  No.  I meant that as an example how quickly people lose patience in a crisis, and that one was an inconvenience. 

Me neighbor works at Westchester medical center which is huge.  They think the virus blew through the hospital staff 2 months ago, but they had no tests. 

Well, the economy can’t shut down.  People will be broke soon, and they will have to eat, and they will need to get money.  During sandy, we had gas shortages in my area, and just within a few days, people were getting aggressive in gas lines.  Less than a week.  People can turn on each other faster than you think.  People will do what they think they have to do, right or wrong.  They will do it because the consequences to them are hunger and poverty. 

To me this is is going to be a game of chicken. People need to eat vs. the virus.  Who breaks first?  I hope the virus, but if it doesn’t the pain will be unimaginable.  And I also think there could be a point where the government can’t keep a lid on people moving and the people demanding a return to normal.  Patience will eventually run out on this, also sooner than you think.  Weeks not months.  

We got a shot up here mid Westchester.  Not expecting much but any snow would be at least interesting. 

2 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

Stood outside speras for almost 2 hrs until they opened.. Line was to the street, it was like black Friday. 

Bought like 40-50 pounds of meat lol 

Would of bought more but didn't wanna get jumped lol

Good plan.  You will hate chicken once this clears...

2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I still don't get it. I don't see it being an issue in Canada, Norway, Germany, etc...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/22/germany-health-care-system-compared-to-united-states.html

Germany blows us out of the water. Watch that video and tell me how you can disagree. It's fact after fact of them having better health care for half the price.

Germans pay for it, just the bill comes in a different envelope.  Nothing is free, and Germany has problems I am glad we don’t have.  

49 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

Yep. Politicians: They're all the same. And any individual who starts with the "us" vs. "them" when it comes to referring to the "other" major party only condones the division that has occurred in our country.

Unfortunately, there isn't much of a way out of it, with politicians, corporations, Pharma, and the media all linked together to make a hostile force.

Welcome to mankind.  It’s never been anything but a struggle.  Hobbs talked about it.  

1 minute ago, MJO812 said:

Where is the link to the thread?  There is more to talk about so than this thread...

49 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Because we are missing this huge event to our north somehow?

Just noticing the out of towners.  

As the snow line goes north, so do the posters.  If global warming keeps up we will be in the Labrador forum.  

I so want to go to my camp this weekend in Old Forge.  They will have 20 before this ends.  Winter has suddenly appeared there with over 50 inches this month.

My wife will change the locks if I go.  

14 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Hopefully last through August! 

Well it will certainly last until June 1.  

41 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

I strongly agree here...in fact, I think one could argue that the result of some of what is going on is tied into the balance trying to be re-stored. I know the Earth goes through cycles and the Earth has gone through periods of extreme warmth before...but when you account for the population now compared to back then the scale of the impacts are much more extreme. 

Obviously it can be argued whether humans are directly related to the changes in climate or not...but whether humans are to blame doesn't really change the fact that changes in climate are resulting in significant disruptions to lives/nature. Australia is a great example...now perhaps centuries or thousands of years ago the Hadley cell went through a similar shift to what is occurring now and human-induced climate change isn't to blame...but that's minute. At the end of the day millions of people and wildlife are being impacted. 

The climate is changing at the moment for sure, but it doesn't appear that there is some kind of long term stability/balanced/harmonious climate state, and I mean in a thousands years timescale or something like that.  The Yellow Emperor, Caesar, Charlemagne, Louis the 14th, and Lincoln all had different climate as far as we know from records and accounts. Keep going back in human history before writing and its generally warmed since.  I'm not sure if we can really say the climate is altered forever and that this particular observed period is vastly different than other fluxy periods.  I think the human lifespan is short compared to what a significant climate episode likely is.  A significant episode could be like an ice age, or some other event that extends past a few hundred year period.

Is warming over 50 years meaningful?  Will it last 10,000 years?  I dunno.  The former is within our lifetimes so it gets the most consideration since that is the only time scale anyone living can experience.

Its 29 here, clear sky, light breeze today.  Pretty normal for this date and locale.  Does that matter?  

5 minutes ago, Dr. Dews said:

riveting

Go take your pill.  

Just now, WinterWolf said:

Lol..I’m just kidding pal.  But it will spoil ya.  As we said above 100-125 is easy to do.  And 160-200 is not that hard to do.  
 

But It’s not about the miles for me anymore...I do what I feel I want to.  I average probably about 125-140 a day..sometimes a lil more, sometimes a lil less.  

Oh I agree,  but I got a 14 year old.  Those 150 miles (actually 166 miles) were on high traffic trails.  What starts as stutter bumps increases to deep whoopti doos by nightfall.  I’m ready for Maine. 

The fact they give out t shirts for 150 miles is telling. We got the only ones that day.  

11 minutes ago, mreaves said:

What do you want to know?

Looking for a year around campground on the vast system so I can haul my equipment up and leave it all season.  This way when I want to go to Maine it’s on the way.  Anywhere VT will do.

30 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Warning cleetus: You’re gonna be sorry...after riding in Maine, other areas lose their luster lol. 

I know.  250 miles per day, right?  Check this out: In NY my kid and I got a free t shirt for riding 150 miles in a day last weekend.  I’m still sore. 

Hey snowmobiling crew...Maine is happening for me next season for sure.  But I need to relocate my weekend regular riding.  Thinking VAST and relocating camp.  

33 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Why do you wish for such things? Lol 

 

jk btw

Lol.  If that hits I get a dry slot at my house and my camp upstate is buried until June.  

Verbatim dry slot crushing nyc crowd, just after the wind blown rain deluge.  

8 minutes ago, Hoth said:

You ain't kidding.

Ha.  We get hit by. 961 low twice with that retrograde loop de dupe,  and yes that would salvage winter for many.

1 hour ago, Go Kart Mozart said:

 

 

What are you looking at other than the next week or so?  The AO is forecast to fall of a cliff after that.  We will get help from the arctic, and it is far from too late.  I am sure you remember 1993...a dog of a winter until March.

March 93 ain’t walking through that door. 

16 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

I think why many think this winter is so bad is because of all the failures that have occurred. Other winters have obviously been worse. This one, though, has sucked us in with lots of possibilities...with most of them being disappointments. i.e last night's failure.

One positive is all the mixes/ice/thawing and freezing have helped to maintain a snowpack for much of the winter...at least in this area.

I'll go with this.  Much promise, especially with an early cold shot in November and good looking LR teles…  Then mirage snow oasis kept showing up on the LR and medium range modeling only to cut or vaporize.  The models have been terrible for the US which just adds to the frustration for snow lovers.

I never say this but lets get right to spring.  The last thing I want is for this wound to fester through April.

Next week cuts. Pattern looks meh after.  Worst winter I can remember full stop.  

Euro wasn’t bueno for next weeks system.  Rainy mix meh.