Hurricane Agnes

WSW -

Even though it's not a strict "Miller B", the whole setup feels like a hybrid one with a low riding up a cold front as the front moves east, and then transferring out to the coast. Anything that even hints at "Miller B" seems to always be hard to nail down.

EC 12z Kuchera -

The AI one doesn't have that option (unless it's just a Pivotal Weather thing). The regular EC is still running.

The AI one looks conservative compared to everything else.

Some other 6zs - ICON, Canadian & Ukie.

6z 12k NAMs still wants to put other frozen in there.

7z NBM.

6z AI EC.

I know we are really coming into CAMs range but here is the 6z GFS (6z AI ECM is running).

18z Euros. Still think tomorrow with the 0zs and 12zs will be "go time" (including the NAM) -

And so you proceeeded to send me down the rabbit hole to sub to that. I remember when they first came out and were free (for some stuff). But times change... Their 18z GFS 282 hr sleet map - still looks to be down just below Philly metro.

Pivotal's maps don't have a separate "sleet" frame. Just the frozen. ETA - 18z EC is running. Will see what that has to say!

That's the next Thursday storm I think (vs this weekend)! Trying to get through this one!

I have been going through that and the MA gets huge amounts of sleet but not up here based on that GFS run!

Seems to be downplaying any sleet/ZR! Looks to be an outlier. May have to see what it does for the 0z.

18Z AIGFS total qpf -

18z GFS -

The 18z ICON has it still accumulating up in NE PA and east, into Tuesday

Mike indicated earlier in the thread what it used. I just added the ice image too.

19z NBM (18z ICON is running).

Heard about the shortage on the radio this morning. I bought a couple jugs over the past years when I happened to see them at the supermarket and still have a couple intact and one partial (and I keep one in my car). I remember back in '94, people were using kitty litter to spread on the ice.

I remember there were over a dozen ice storms from December '93 into January/February '94. It was a frigging mess. I don't know if any happened when it was teens here in the city but some of the temps were pretty frigid. During one of the worst of them in January '94, I had to go down to Baltimore on a work trip and was going to take Amtrak but was driving to 30th St. Station to park and hop the train. On my way there as the storm was underway, I was about to go up on the Expressway when I heard on KYW that it was icy so I bypassed the exit ramp from Lincoln Drive to go up that way, and took the Kelly Drive instead. Found out later that people were trapped on the Expressway for something like 8 hours as cars/trucks got stuck on the ramps and no one could get on or off. That was also a time when the area was all out of road and consumer salt. So when I was down in Baltimore, I bought a couple bags of halite (they only had plain rain down there) and brought that back for my mom. For the rest of that winter, she was the only one on her block with a walk clear and dry to the pavement! But sadly enough, there was a red cedar tree between her house and her neighbor's that was at least 30ft tall and the ice literally coated the tree and uprooted the whole thing, which ended up splayed across the front yards and halfway into the street.

12z Euro and also including their ice prog -

12z ICON for informational purposes -