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For @weatherwiz it always come back to the EML in the end! Well, the West Stockbridge MA F4 Aug 28, 1973 tracked NNW to SSE, so odds are *big* EML then.

Yes, the state of the MDR is exceptional currently. Dry air and shear regime supreme. Look at the SAL image of the remains of Dplly attached. That dry air wrap that far S (goes to 5 deg N) this time of year? Ugh.

If you were talking in jest from the start, that was not apparent to me. It is very hard at times on social media to detect tone, inflection, and mood (compare to in-person) esp. when it comes to topical or sensitive issues. It can be a minefield and leads to unnecessary conflict. And we all have been there and are susceptible. So I apologize for the improper response. It was not done maliciously or in spite, just I was trying to clarify my position and what was trying to say w/o letting the conversation devolve, which is challenge in itself many times!

That is incorrect. I said I was not being political. Another made it political (or so I thought, see a post below that clarifies) by bring up specific motives/actions by the current administration for this one change. That's not the same thing. And again, I was taking in general about how geopolitical location name changes occur often. That's not taking "sides," politically or otherwise. It is stating objective facts as to how things actually work in the world.

Ahh, a name issue. Actually, it is "Canada geese!" I got corrected on that in the 00s.

NW flow late summer? West Stockbridge MA Aug 1973 redux? Or how about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_1821_New_England_tornado_outbreak

@CoastalWxknows how to lighten the mood, despite his "EEYORE" tendencies! LOL. I predict "Stein" will work its way into our vernacular eventually. Like "that's so FETCH" from "Mean Girls!"

That's a good question, I guess it is subjective and a matter of opinion as to scale here. Airport name changes were just one example I gave and are more common. I noted more significant changes like major cities and country name changes as well. Again, I focused on the broader picture how geopolitical name changes occur more often than many may think, and it not a specific U.S. "problem," if one takes it that way. The "shock and awe" from all this looking at social media in general I find excessive. That's why I provided historical context in the first place. Too many act like everything in the here and now done is wrong or unprecedented, when it is often not. And you think name changes prior to locations did not have some ppl upset or pushing back? Again, historical context. W/o that, you are sailing a ship w/o a rudder, and this affects how you think/feel/react. As for the reasons location names change? They are numerous -- social, political, economic, technological --you name it, it has happened for that reason. That is a different topic and should be discussed elsewhere. In this wx forum, stick to the geopolitical name change implications as it pertains to our field and the sciences. Some have already mentioned a concern -- LES for Lake Ontario, which was partially in jest I think, but nevertheless of value and food for thought!

As mentioned before, the MDR conditions are among the worst they can be or we've seen in a long time. That kind of dry air wrapping that far S this time of year? It goes S to 5 deg N lat. Ugh. And you have this large upper-level low at 250 over Cuba that goes nowhere fast in the next week. Looking at the 500 vorticity on the ECMWF, the Dolly's vort gets to the nrn Lesser Anilities, and then gets sheard apart and nothing left to head W. On the GFS, it keeps the vort stronger, but still shears it apart near PR, and part of it does head W, but I am not sure you can call this the remains of Dolly by this point b/c it would have undergone so much shearing and misconfiguration. If something does indeed develop, it probably should be called separate TC. When the sfc and mid-level circulation cannot be track coherently, that should make it a new TC if it redevelops. Sure, there are dregs of the former system, but I find that a stretch esp. w/ so much elapsed time. In Dolly's case if something redevelops. it will be likely at least a week from that, and it may interact w/ another feature sfc or aloft during this time, distancing it from it former self.

@WxWatcher007 post here is reasonable and states facts.

You are being specific as to why a given change occurs, when I was talking in only in general about how it is nothing new for name changes and how they are more common than many think. Your statement is non-sequitur argument. And your statement is selective outrage, as I noted in my initial post was likely occurring/occurred Again, I was only talking in general and giving a bunch of historical examples about location name changes and how many administrations have done it...factual. The implied deriding statement "opus of factuality" is an ad hominem attack/poisoning the well statement. I suggest you avoid committing logical fallacies in your statements if you want to have a reasonable discussion. I said my post was not political, and you turned it into one. I stuck w/ facts..

Yes, the mid and upper levels are a mess and chaotic, You can see upper lows prevalent at 250 on the 18z ECMWF analysis attached and lots of dry air on the WV image attached. Also on the IR image attached, how disheveled it is, lacking in any circular symmetry aloft and the stable stratocumulus W and NW of the system (seeing this in the MDR during the peak of the season?, that is rare). In addition, how small and isolated Dolly is, w/ barely any other deep convection in the entire MDR! When it's bad, it can be *really* bad (for TCs).

Name changes to locations happen more often than many think from all levels of govt and globally. It is nothing new. Idlewild Airport in NYC was changed to J.F.K. in 1963. Manchester Airport was changed to Manchester-Boston Regional Airport in 2006. In 2023, Fort Bragg NC was changed to Fort Liberty and then back to Bragg in 2025. Other military bases had this done in the previous administration and current. Mt McKinley was changed to Denali in 2015, and now is back to Mt McKinley. Barrow AK was changed to Utqiaġvik in 2016. Hot Springs NM changed to Truth or Consequences in 1950. There are many others examples in the country and worldwide Leningrad changed to St Petersburg in 1991, Myanmar was Burma, Belize was British Honduras, Eswatini was Swaziland. So anyone thinking name changes to locations are not allowed/llegal or unique to just the current administration or political reasons for changes did not occur during prior administrations is incorrect and may be displaying bias and/or selective outrage. And the above is not a political statement, it is a factual statement.

Ever notice watches likes this "mysteriously" stop on the ALY CWA borders? Like one can really peg down w-cntrl VT has less of a risk or should not be in the watch in this case? My point is this happens too often to just be coincidence. The atmosphere does not care about geopolitical borders!