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Imagine a li'l Scott if svr tstm warnings were issued for gusty showers in the 80s. He would be like, "how can this be? I don't understand!" And then write a letter to Dick Albert!

Recall when you talked about the Dec 1994 storm when you are greener than green at WSI in 2005? And I go, "how did you know about that?!" You had no idea it actually was a 70 kt HU. It's on the list to be included as a HU.

GHG PT?

I really think they should have short-fused high wind warnings in these cases. Think about it, when ppl hear "svr tstm" they expect LTG/T and it to be rockin'. Just promotes distrust and apathy.

It seems over time, the size of warnings has grown, or they are issued earlier. Special marine warnings for Chesapeake Bay this evening, and the line of storms was 1 hr out. No OFB ahead yet either. People are only willing to take so much time out of their day. More is not always better. Say one day we can give a spinner warnings 1 hr ahead. So does that mean people need to go to their basement immediately? That is absurd. And say some do that, and nothing happens (which will for the majority), many will not be happy b/c it is a waste of time. For large venue locations w/ lots of people, yes longer lead times are better, but that's the minority of the time.

I get that, but @CoastalWx has no excuse!

Excellent shelf cloud visible from College Park now! Too dark for a good still photo tho.

That's what I thought for @CoastalWx when he got his long awaited 6" in Jan -- VIOLENTLY BEAUTIFUL he said. But the NIN "downward spiral" continues I guess despite a solid 25-26 winter.

Not me. I've mellowed out. When you are a teenager and once in college just getting to know the real ins and outs, and that period SUX for snow (for me the second half of the 80s), when the train finally came in 1992-93, that gives you perspective, and then after something like 95-96 and to top it off w/ one of the most wild blizzards ever in 1997 (the "freak the public out" off season events do it for me!), that made up for all the "bad times." And it just stayed epic, w/ the absolute pinnacle Jan-Feb 2015. @CoastalWxwas old enough to know how the second half of the 80s were Ask him how many times how woke up to sunny conditions and went, "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY 4-8" OF BACKLASH?!" And even though he had to wait a bit longer than me b/c Dec 11-12, 1992 was a royal shaft in Brockton for snow, it all corrected itself soon enough, and for *everyone.* Even when a gap occurs like the 4 years until this past Jan, and then two 20"+ storms in his backyard? Sorry, I don't want to hear it!

I recall not so long ago, you'd get a PT when there was a sharp gradient of snow/no snow on the S Shore, and snowfall was only 1". And I said, "you really are getting excited about seeing that?" And you fired back saying how fascinating it was seeing the sharp gradient. Guess that weenie I once knew is long gone!

Taking it up a notch, you get ppl like @CoastalWx who say MEH and whine if every storm is not a blockbuster. Look at his post just from a few hours ago. Whining basically b/c "I have seen it all and am jaded." And now takes the figurative position, "I only want HOME RUNS, singles and doubles SUX!"

You should go live EFFINGham NH, at least you'd see a lot more SN.

Instead of PD2 we could call it PS2 (Perfect Storm 2)!

A classic GIF from "Midlo" that fits this!

Here's @GaWx big Oct 1982 storm. This page from Storm Data I recall well back in the day and I was awed by the line "an almost hurricane-like eye off the coast of SC." So what is fcst down the road is in-line w/ previous very strong El Ninos. All this focus on how unusual or "unpredictable" the wx is for very strong El Nino (or wx in general), when in reality, the wx that happens within this type of El Nino is normal for it based on previous events! https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/gibbs/image/GOE-5/IR/1982-10-24-21