vortex95

Yes, I do not like that term either. "Thunderstorm" is best b/c it means w/ or w/o precip which covers it all b/c how many time do you not get a drop of rain but you get LTG/T that sends @weatherwiz and @ineedsnow bouncing off the walls!? Or @CoastalWxgetting a jolt from his PC b/c of an isolated +CG hits very close that scares the bejesus out of him, but it is sunny out? And when you get to desert regions, many tstms never get a drop to the ground since it is all virga, yet the LTG/T is nasty! And when you say "thunder," that by default means convective, even when it is from CSI or embedded in a large area of synoptic precip (convective elements), so the precip is showery in nature and thus "showers" attached to thunder is redundant. I bet @CoastalWx still uses "thunderhead" to describe a CB! Also, "heat lightning!" Or he may go, "why is is called a "funnel cloud" when it always does not look like a funnel!"

Sometimes the tightness/RI *saves* and area from a bigger hit. Melissa over Jamaica was similar. If Melissa had be a long-tracked Cabo Verde, it would have been much larger when striking Jamaica. Sure, it may not have been as intense since multiple ERCs would preclude its sub-900 mb intensity, but a large Cat 4 impacting the entire island vs. only 1/3 of the islands getting Cat 3+ winds is not the same. Also, the wrn 1/3 of Jamaica is significantly less populated, and one of its main airports went largely unscathed, and the other being on the N coast on the wrn side of the island had sig less impact than if it were on the S side. Compare to Gilbert at cat 3 in Sep 1988 that cut down the full length of the Jamaica E-W w/ the entire land devastated. 80% of home lost their roofs. At least w/ Melissa on about 1/2 of the island, one could find relief, relatively speaking, short-term before full aid arrived and was distributed.

Imagine a li'l Scott if svr tstm warnings were issued for gusty showers in the 80s. He would be like, "how can this be? I don't understand!" And then write a letter to Dick Albert!

Recall when you talked about the Dec 1994 storm when you are greener than green at WSI in 2005? And I go, "how did you know about that?!" You had no idea it actually was a 70 kt HU. It's on the list to be included as a HU.

GHG PT?

I really think they should have short-fused high wind warnings in these cases. Think about it, when ppl hear "svr tstm" they expect LTG/T and it to be rockin'. Just promotes distrust and apathy.

It seems over time, the size of warnings has grown, or they are issued earlier. Special marine warnings for Chesapeake Bay this evening, and the line of storms was 1 hr out. No OFB ahead yet either. People are only willing to take so much time out of their day. More is not always better. Say one day we can give a spinner warnings 1 hr ahead. So does that mean people need to go to their basement immediately? That is absurd. And say some do that, and nothing happens (which will for the majority), many will not be happy b/c it is a waste of time. For large venue locations w/ lots of people, yes longer lead times are better, but that's the minority of the time.

I get that, but @CoastalWx has no excuse!

Excellent shelf cloud visible from College Park now! Too dark for a good still photo tho.

That's what I thought for @CoastalWx when he got his long awaited 6" in Jan -- VIOLENTLY BEAUTIFUL he said. But the NIN "downward spiral" continues I guess despite a solid 25-26 winter.

Not me. I've mellowed out. When you are a teenager and once in college just getting to know the real ins and outs, and that period SUX for snow (for me the second half of the 80s), when the train finally came in 1992-93, that gives you perspective, and then after something like 95-96 and to top it off w/ one of the most wild blizzards ever in 1997 (the "freak the public out" off season events do it for me!), that made up for all the "bad times." And it just stayed epic, w/ the absolute pinnacle Jan-Feb 2015. @CoastalWxwas old enough to know how the second half of the 80s were Ask him how many times how woke up to sunny conditions and went, "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY 4-8" OF BACKLASH?!" And even though he had to wait a bit longer than me b/c Dec 11-12, 1992 was a royal shaft in Brockton for snow, it all corrected itself soon enough, and for *everyone.* Even when a gap occurs like the 4 years until this past Jan, and then two 20"+ storms in his backyard? Sorry, I don't want to hear it!

I recall not so long ago, you'd get a PT when there was a sharp gradient of snow/no snow on the S Shore, and snowfall was only 1". And I said, "you really are getting excited about seeing that?" And you fired back saying how fascinating it was seeing the sharp gradient. Guess that weenie I once knew is long gone!

Taking it up a notch, you get ppl like @CoastalWx who say MEH and whine if every storm is not a blockbuster. Look at his post just from a few hours ago. Whining basically b/c "I have seen it all and am jaded." And now takes the figurative position, "I only want HOME RUNS, singles and doubles SUX!"

You should go live EFFINGham NH, at least you'd see a lot more SN.

Instead of PD2 we could call it PS2 (Perfect Storm 2)!