I can see clearly that there is nothing clear in the long range. I think we need to continue to focus on the upper patterns because that will dictate what we see at the surface. CALL ME CAPTAIN OBVIOUS! I just am stating, it will not be a clean transition so our daily rundown is likely to stir different outcomes.. but the -EPO seems pretty likely! That -NAO is key and I just want to see it hold.. If we get lucky like 2013, we will get small overrunners.. just hope we get the right side of the front and that it stays close enough to matter. As mentioned the WAR was SO important. But, I do think we had a few true storms that year, including a few larger systems. Not sure if it was due to a -NAO, phasing, or just transient 50/50.. The cold has to be available to tap though, no matter what, and I think we see that is possible... then the individual players will start to show. Somewhere in the thread Bob mentioned short leads to little events.. so I am just looking for the "ducks" to be on the pond and hope we end favorable.