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You may be able to find something outside of the US with such a rare occurrence. There will be none in 2020-2030 as far as I am concerned.

2.4-2.6 is the range that comes to mind when you look at Paleo-climate. However the datasets are always contested and people opt for the other thing.

China is calling but nobody is answering.

Hold we are not done yet. The Earth is about to put you on ignore so I would tread lightly. Civilization is a high risk low return game for the vast majority of humanity and future generations.

It doesn't matter but I won't torment you on this beautiful day. I would suggest keeping the vaccine talk out of banter. The mindset must be we need everyone on board but the damage is done dude. It doesn't matter the status quo is not coming back and COVID wasn't likely to kill anyone on this forum anyway. From a purely selfish perspective there is no incentive and there is nobody out there worth dieing for and there is much more downside risk than can ever be justified. I will make an exception for you if you were vaccinated due to travel or occupational reasons.

Between the oceanic heat burial and the aerosols this is how a disaster can sneak up on a civilization. At it's core civilization is fundamentally unsustainable anyway.

You are a strange one. I think the COVID shot will make you stranger.

In my mind this is a subtle form of climate denial because believe it or not the climate changes will take these creatures out in the long-run. The best thing we can do is stop the bleeding and prevent the things we have control over.

It will never happen as they produce the products that the American economy depends on and backtracking on offshoring would move the ecological costs of production back to the states. It is the main reason why they pulled out of all the stops to get Biden into the White House. Trump wanted to create an economy based on national autarky.

Good luck with that. This is starting to look like World War 2 all over again because the core causes of this war were never resolved in detail. That brings us to another topic of the insane level of censorship and green-washing and the political circus that goes on in 2021 unrivaled in modern times. As civilizations collapse they become increasingly more inefficient and unstable.

It's all meaningless because it was going to happen anyway from AGW but you have a point regarding the fact that you cannot have these activities without carbon overshoot. Remove either one and the problem is solved. I know my stance on this issue is unpopular. I have become increasingly more Luddite-esque as the world pushes the futurist narrative but there is only one sure fire way to end over-exploitation of the land-base which is disrupt technology and technological slavery.

Bigger in relation to what and when? Not liking this language especially at the most critical juncture. This could be subtle greenwashing by PBS.

Too many references to global warming yet again that people don't see the interplay between activity restrictions and the end of civilization. I don't think packing up will help much since there's no where left to go. Any sensible person would view COVID as a miracle in disquise and not a burden lowering their personal autonomy and freedom.

I suppose my argument derives from a personal ethical preference. I believe the autonomy of the human individual is decreasing. Don't confuse this with the right to pollute but rather the ability to live fulfilling lives. Put simply everyone has a reason to leave civilization as we know it behind. A decrease in the standard of living for the vast majority of the world and an untenable resource consumption burden therefore the removal of the resource base for future generations. The only people who will be holding on to the utopian fantasy in 20 years will be the fringe capitalists and related types social democratic governments and communism. Sadly in their departure from the world stage will leave destruction in their wake.

Civilization is high maintenance. We need more sophisticated recycling of Rare Earth Materials. There are too many ways to go under and the timescales are too large. Again even if it's possible in the short-term doesn't mean we should go for it because the benefits do not outweigh the risks on the supply/demand side and the ethical side.

Damage without the fringe benefits of snowfall. You guys ought to move out into nature and keep it simple.

I think it's accurate and when you account for total property loss to lives lost ratio it makes perfect sense. I think people are under-educated in the 'depopulation' mechanics of AGW.

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Like the other portion of the Anthropocene where you know we are unable to keep doing those things.

These large-scale perturbations in the recent normals are a signal of increasing hysteresis in the system. In other words the end of the Holocene climate regime is close as we head towards a equable climate with little to none temperature difference between the tropics and polar region.

I agree it would be a huge blunder and a crime against humanity and by association nature if this was ever attempted en masse.

Starvation is absent from the chart because of the pre-cautionary bias. Exposure to natural disasters is not how global warming will get you. It's in the effects on agriculture and the interactions with population dynamics. Also peak energy will make it more difficult to transport grains and resources. Get real man. Renewables don't work period so let's look at scaling back not carrying down the fossil fuel road.