LibertyBell

Yes I edited my post to give the total number of samples of each as I feel that is a better way to express it than percentages when the sample size is so small. 13 total cases 1 case of 30"+ 6 cases of 20"+ 4 cases of under 10" (this also infers 3 cases between 10-20") Looks like our best realistic hope now is to somehow get near average snowfall (which I consider between 20-29")

wow Don, so of the 8 cases that saw 30" or more of snowfall the most was 32.8"? That means there were 8 cases packed into the narrow margin of 30-32.8? That's pretty amazing. I wonder how many were el nino vs la nina vs neutral? edit-- you said 8% out of 13 so that would be only 1 case haha..... Better to use number of total cases rather than percentages when the sample size is so small. I just did this in my head for a rough idea....so it's just 1 case of 30"+ 6 total cases of 20"+ and 4 cases of under 10"?

I remember there were people trapped in cars, buses and trains in NYC during the Boxing Day 2010 blizzard but not this kind of death toll (I don't remember what the death toll was but it was very low from what I recall?)

There's also a lot of corruption going on in Buffalo in terms of infrastructure contracts they've been handing out....but that doesn't explain this tragedy, this was an extreme weather event for them. The latest numbers I read were 40 dead from this storm and 17 of them in NY.

wow January 2019 had an underrated cold spell, 14 for the high on the 21st and then 16 on the 31st? That's the only twofer on the list and right behind January 1994 which had a threefer (10 for the high on the 19th, and 15 on the 16th and the 20th.) There was another arctic shot closer to the end of the month when we hit 0, but there was a cutter right behind that so the high was 32 at midnight (first time I can recall a low of 0F and a high of 0C lol) and 55 the next day with strong SE gales that matched the temperature in gusts with a high of 55!

Nice to see the usual suspects on this list-- 1980, 1983, 1989 and now this year. Going back to 1980, what were our coldest December highs and lows, Chris? I think 1980 had the only low below 0.....did any of them have highs in the single digits or low teens? Thanks!

I thought it was the 05-06 winter that started this new pattern, looks like it started a bit earlier than that! The mild/snowy pattern is a new one, as our winters used to be either cold/snowy, cold/dry, cold/rainy, mild/rainy or mild/dry

Latest report was 40 dead from this storm, 17 of them in New York

Same high, but much lower low, thanks Don!

2015-16 being the big outlier when we had over 40" at JFK (over 30" in one storm.)

Wow that's amazing-- what was the date that happened? Thanks!

Thanks Don, Mt Pocono isn't in this list, but I assume they too set a new record? Looks like 1978 and 1990 both appear a lot in this list lol.

I'm actually surprised it got that cold in 2013-14, I thought that winter was all about borderline temperatures and had lots of snow but most of them switched over to rain. 2014-15 had more pure snow and was much colder. I see April 2000 in this list and going from 75 to 32 on the 9th, was that when we had 1-2 inches of snow in April 2000?

I'm wondering where he might be too.

That explains 1989 and 1990 too, since we started out with higher temperatures then too. I recall those were quite windy periods too, I remember the extreme severe weather outbreak in November 1989 with the tornadoes and I think the 8 children who died in the school cafeteria when the wall collapsed. All the leaves were off the trees in November 1989 before the Thanksgiving snowstorm hit. These late fall / early winter extreme severe weather outbreaks have become more common too.

If my talcum powder debacle counts, salt counts too! This seems to be a common theme the last couple of winters, more salt than snow.

One more thing to note, especially in reference to this extreme temperature swing of 50 degrees we had.....big temperature swings were also quite common in the late 80s and early 90s.....1989 and 1990 show up a lot on Roger's list of the biggest temperature swings, so that may be another repeating cyclical pattern, along with going into drier years than we've been used to and less humidity (specifically applies to the summers.) Might want to look into solar cycles too, as the early 90s were near the peak of solar heating.

50s had low snowfall around here as March was the snowiest March and the other months weren't very snowy. If you go through the 1950s, no year had 40" or more at NYC and the snowiest was 55-56 at 39.2" on the strength of its big March. 1950s are actually comparable to what we have going on right now with March being the snowiest month and high tropical activity.

We did strike out in 2000-01 but it happened in March instead of December haha. 2010 was a fat pitch right down the middle of the plate though-- it was a la nina after an el nino and that is ALWAYS snowy around here. That was always going to be extremely snowy.

That was way too long a period to just be "luck" there is a cycle involved here and it's now repeating.....I've been noting that the last few years are very much like the 80s and now we got the drier summer too, so I believe we are going to be in a much drier pattern with less snow for a few years. Hotter/less humid summers too (which is good.)

I was looking across Long Island and FRG, ISP and FOK all had 48 degree swings on the same calendar day but all three were 50 degrees over 24 hours. FOK had the maximum wind gust at 61 MPH after the cold front came through.

Wow excellent, a record for them too? I saw a 54 degree swing at MPO in 24 hours (5 AM yesterday to 5 AM today), and 53 degrees on the same calendar day (are these records too?) ABE had a 53 degree swing in 24 hours and on the same calendar day. PHL had like you said a 50 degree swing in 24 hours and on the same calendar day. I saw a 48 degree swing at JFK in 24 hours (5 AM yesterday to 5 AM today), and 46 degrees on the same calendar day (are these records too?) LGA and EWR both had 50 degree swings in 24 hours and 49 degree swings on the same calendar day. Thanks!

Would love to know how much of your snowpack is still around. My house in the Poconos was at -2 at midnight but I don't know how much lower it got after that-- what was your low this morning? I think the lowest temps were around 8 AM? Did the windchill get to -20 or -25? I use Mount Pocono for my local obs, any idea what the low was over there and the coldest windchill? Thanks!

Sometimes we sure wish we could control it.

How long would you think the good pattern will last? I would say Jan 20 just going by recent history to about Feb 20?