LibertyBell

No I also thought about it back in the 1980s when all of this was happening, but because the 2000s and 2010s were so good for snow, I just put it in the back of my mind.

Chris, if we further limit the set to include 20"+ snowstorms only and compare NYC, JFK and ISP, how do they compare? Let's extend it to the last 30 year climate period (1991-2020). It makes sense that ISP requires less than what NYC requires....but I find it interesting that ACY, which is south of us, also seems to be fine with a +AO. Maybe ACY can be included in the set too, it's not like the January storm was an isolated event, it also happened in 1989.

Feb 2006 was a measly 13" here LOL and 10" in Feb 2013

Thats right and actually for me, Jan 2016 is in its own category. There's only a few that rank that high for me and it's Feb 1983, Jan 1996, Feb 2003 and Jan 2016....so basically once a decade. That's my full list of 20"+ storms (my minimum for HECS) and one of them was a 30"+ storm (BECS in my classification system). <1" coating 1-3" minor 4-6" moderate 6-10" significant 10-20" major 20"+ historic 30"+ biblical

I don't find trying to figure out 5 letter words particularly exciting. Sooner or later they'll run out of words and this craze will end. Humans are like a herd of sheep, they like to go together, no matter how foolish the direction is that they go in. Make them 10 letters or longer and then you'll pique my interest. Actually variable length is the best and give each person the same number of guesses as the number of letters in the word.

That's an excellent way of looking at it-- we need to view teleconnections together, not in isolation. And we further have to subdivide them into north vs south and east vs west based. But here's another thought. Is the NYC area just in a bad area for storm tracks....we saw this in the 80s too- there are two predominant tracks for storms, one is south of the area and the other is north of the area. We've seen this in a few other recent winters too, where places both south and north of us see less snow in individual storms than we do. Maybe the NYC is just a bad area for snow unless everything lines up perfectly?

very difficult to get a good winter with a December average of 40+ Just picking through this list from bottom to top the notable ones are 1957-58, 2014-15, 1982-83, 2015-16. Some of these were one big snowstorm winters like 1982-83 and 2015-16. 2014-15 was a real standout because of how cold it got from Jan 20 through Mar 20. And it was the only non strong el nino out of the 4, as a matter of fact it wasn't an el nino at all. Was 1891-92 snowy? I'm not familiar with what happened that winter, but it looks like it was the only 1800s winter that had a December average of 40+

One would think a +AO would favor inland areas.....wasn't this the case during the mid 80s thru early 90s? It was all about N/W

It was only for the big events....for one thing there werent any extreme events between Feb 1983 and Mar 1993 and then it was sporadic (just Mar 1993 and Jan 1996) before the madness that began in the 2000s lol. Mar 2001 would have sent this board over the edge

it was obviously a joke/troll post, he and I have had this long running thing for years.... Rockland is the SIBERIA of our subforum so obviously who besides a winter weather enthusiast would want to live there?!

jackpot zones are usually close to the sleet areas and mix lines

I heard that the American models were in last place but the Canadian models really improved because of upgrades?

Sounds like more storms like this one even when the pattern is good....No sign of negative AO/NAO anywhere? At this rate NYC and the airports may finish with below normal snowfall for March

Don when is the AO going to get down to something more reasonable for wintry weather?

you dont think we're going into an el nino for next winter?

Even a place like Boston didn't get the amount of snow they expected....I don't see 8 inch amounts coming in from that region

I would just gaze at them from my windows That way you avoid the cold. Have some of those huge 60" windows that give you a wide angle to view from.

I'd live there for the Northern Lights.... there are places that far north where you don't even have to leave your house to see amazing Northern Lights displays in your back yard 200 nights a year. I wonder if they're so used to them they take them for granted? I've seen that kind of display posted from the Scandanavian nations, yet another reason to want to live there.

Dude you obviously hate cold and snow, why do you live in Rockland? The only people who live in a place like that are winter weather enthusiasts, I can't imagine any other reason for living there. You should be in Florida, you'd love the weather there.

wow in SW Nassau we had like 18" I think that was the JFK total?

Cant help it I'm a Scrabble purist

or all the heavy snow in Boston!

Boxing Day must've been a severe undermeasurement at ISLIP. No way they only had 14.9 for the entire month when NYC got 20" just in one storm. I never trust ISLIP snowfall stats anyway.

"WWIII" isn't a word though which is why Wordle is only for rank amateurs.

snowing 1 inch per hr in Boston though and 3 inches already