LibertyBell

that's why we need a very strong el nino

The problem is the lack of even an average cold airmass. Aside from the arctic shot in late December every other "cold" airmass has been at least 5 degrees above normal.

Definitely....cold beer (at least something's cold.)

It happened in Philly though in 1997-98 so if it can happen there it can happen here. Maybe not this year but eventually (and probably in our lifetimes.)

I think this all will blend into the bigger problem of conserving natural resources, they all have common answers.

I like your point of view! It's more than "just" climate change though, we need to find a way to use resources more efficiently, otherwise we will quickly run out of what the planet has stored (since we're already far exceeding what the planet produces, we are taking it out of the planet's "savings account" so to speak/type.)

https://www.overshootday.org/ It's called Earth Overshoot Day-- we passed the tipping point in 1970 This year, Earth Overshoot Day fell on July 28 Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity has used all the biological resources that Earth regenerates during the entire year.

Maybe we'll get a supernova explosion to get people excited.

It's that plus the mass extinction event humanity began with the industrial age. The industrial age gave us a short unsustainable boost in productivity but unless we go in a different direction, it will also destroy us.

Awesome lol-- there's also this https://www.overshootday.org/ It's called Earth Overshoot Day-- we passed the tipping point in 1970 This year, Earth Overshoot Day fell on July 28 Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity has used all the biological resources that Earth regenerates during the entire year.

https://www.overshootday.org/ It's called Earth Overshoot Day-- we passed the tipping point in 1970 This year, Earth Overshoot Day fell on July 28 Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity has used all the biological resources that Earth regenerates during the entire year.

Oh that was sleet? The sun came out right after that. I see it's snowing in Boston lol.

Those of us who experienced this will remember this storm forever, it was the only HECS between 1978 and 1996

It's the anniversary of the January 1996 blizzard! I think people should remember that....

Only good thing is the California drought is finally coming to an end and no more wild fires recently.

I mean it's also pollution and other factors but this is in general true. You cannot have an infinite population on a finite surface-- this is why the rich are looking into going to space. Fertility is also going down (not a bad thing at all.) We exceeded the tipping point in 1970. Right now we use the amount of resources that would need 5 earths to be regenerated every year. Do we have 5 earths to draw these resources from? No....so we use up what was accumulated millions of years ago.

remember Nestor from ancient Greek mythology? it's estimated old king Nestor lived to 90 or 100? He even survived the Trojan war lol.

awesome lol misery loves company

I have to tell you i'm seeing some of the most unusual birds this "winter" Everything from parrots to geese (that haven't migrated yet or came back north) and spring songbirds. I heard it snowed in Boston today, what's up with that?

Yep this is true. Best life expectancy is in the usual nations that rank highest on every metric-- the Scandanavian nations. Iceland leads the pack I believe.

You can't broadbrush it like that though, only 3 states are near 80, and there are large pockets of areas (specifically urbanized areas) where it's closer to 60 (much of it because of air pollution-- the number one shortener of life on the planet-- which leads to heart disease, lung disease, asthma, etc.) This is exactly why we're doing the right thing when we ban diesel trucks and drilling near urbanized areas.

That's why people talk about climate engineering. We engineer in every other field of science and climate is not going to be an exception-- there's lots of money being poured into this and the billionaires are behind it, so that's a sure way of knowing it's going to happen.

02-03 was like the Derek Jeter of winters lol, very overlooked in terms of numbers but they really added up, and it had everything you could ever want, early season snow, late season snow (April daytime heavy snow!) and a widespread HECS to boot (very rare, the only 3 I remember are Feb 1983, Jan 1996 and PD2), and it set the stage for four 'championship' winters in a row (although the last one was rather mediocre-- lol-- but we still got to 40" and had a HECS in the middle of it.) The winters before 02-03 were mostly ugly....00-01 was okay but even that had a historic bust at the end.

March was roasting in 1990 but then we somehow got a few inches of snow in April lol.

I would LOVE an ultra strong el nino-- I don't think a 'weak' el nino will be enough. Not to change this pattern. Some of those weak el ninos we had in the 50s that came after la ninas didn't produce much snow either. Give me a 1957-58 or 2002-03 or 2009-10 type strong el nino....historically this is what you need to change the pattern, not some wimp of a weak el nino. Check out the snow seasons prior to those years....I think they were all bad to just about average before those strong el ninos came and gave us snowy winters for a few years.