LibertyBell

Hypothetically of course, but how high of a wall would need to be built to keep the mild air off the ocean from being able to come in? Likewise, to keep the sea breeze blocked during the summer?

epic JFK ice storm in Jan 1994 that might be the GOAT of ice storms with inches of ice. VD 2007 and St Paddys Day 2007 were also pretty good

uhm the 1994 ice storm was absolutely epic we had close to 2" of ice here temp never got to freezing near JFK happened again in 2007 actually that was a sleet to freezing rain storm on VD and then again in March

I think our snow was wetter here on the south shore.

I remember we recently had a tropical system that went from Bermuda to SNE...weird tracks lately

I lost 2 aunts to cancer, you have my fullest sympathy....one had stomach cancer and the other had brain cancer

that storm gets shoved so far west that its mixed precip on the east end lol

Funny, 32 F used to be above normal for Jan in the 80s Most Jan averaged in the 20s back then

we had a few of these in 2004-05 do you remember any that backed in all the way and delivered significant snow here? In my memory the most we get is a few inches here I think there was one in Feb 2016 that gave 4-6 inches to eastern parts of the city that was probably the biggest one I remember

dont we usually get historic events like these just before a major pattern change?

thats usually the way it happens with our biggest snowstorms

Jan 20th has become our peak snowfall climo date.

that sounds about right

Wait what, the JFK number keeps going up? I thought it was 6.2" lol. Did the NYC number go up too? Where is the final report?

Walt.... 8.1 inches of snow here on 0.90" precip jives well with how heavy and wet the snow was here, all the trees are literally caked in snow! 9:1 ratio.....I wonder what it was at JFK?

Based on Walt's numbers..... Looks like down here on the south shore it was closer to 10:1.....I wonder why? The trees here are full of snow, just like a heavy wet snow.....8.1 inches on 0.90 precip? Wow, that's actually, 9:1, might explain the lower snow totals down here? Chris do you have the official JFK ratios? Either way the snow down here was really wet and caked all the trees until they were bent over.....until the wind started up and blew it all down lol.

Looks like down here on the south shore it was closer to 10:1.....I wonder why? The trees here are full of snow, just like a heavy wet snow.....8.1 inches on 0.90 precip? Wow, that's actually, 9:1, might explain the lower snow totals down here?

Yeah I dont care if California and Washington and Oregon don't see a single drop of precipitation from now until the end of the season, they got theirs.

Maybe with ACC going forward we'll see more El Nino like patterns even outside El Ninos?

As Mr G would say- a three dog night!

Thanks Don! I see why I confused the two.....they both happened in Jan 2004 and they both ended in the morning! So the mid Jan 2004 event was the one with the extremely high ratios and the late Jan 2004 event was the one with the pink snow? I still remember the wide variance in snowfall..... Far Rockaway had almost 11 inches while JFK was closer to 6.5! Did this one not have the extreme ratios of the prior storm and were the temps not as cold? I think this was the pink snow storm that I still remember all these years later.

So amazing we had a storm like that as late as 2014

Thanks Don, so this was a 6-7 inch event here. I'm trying to remember what storm we had that winter that was a 10-11 inch event (not the Blizzard of Dec 2003).

I dont understand why maps arent made based off of spotter reports

is the GEPS a combo of the GEFS and EPS?