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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
The bad part is, although the developed world has been the major reason for the climate crisis, it's the developing world that's going to pay the most for it. We'll be okay-- we can absorb the costs, but what they will pay will set them back by decades. In the long run it will be better for them of course, but in the short term they will face a lot of issues. -
Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
There's been people asking me why they don't just take water from the Pacific, distill it, and use that lol. -
the wind by itself was enough to qualify for severe weather here-- I thought my windows were going to blow in-- winds over 60 mph
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we need to look at it more as a rapid warming of the west pac not a la nina
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too humid, Arizona is better
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why are la ninas more common than el nino?
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It's for lazy people who use cellphones Here's my position on it-- if you're too lazy to read 10-20 posts in a row, then you're also too lazy to be on a weather forum. I read 400-500 pages a day on various subjects and I have no sympathy for people who complain about having to read a few extra posts. Maybe if their IQ was higher they'd actually enjoy reading more. People with IQ under 140 need not apply. I have zero interest in limiting myself because of the desire of others. I agreed on a compromise which I'm willing to accept-- which is make 2-3 posts in a row and that's it. I'm way too busy to be around long enough to make a lot of posts anyway, I'm working on Book 3 of a series on quantum mechanics and the multiverse and also working on a science documentary that's now over 80 hours long. So late nights only.
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No, I just love the extra exposure lol
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How about a more extreme solution- simply close the highway and set up roadblocks with state troopers? Force people to stop driving until the squall passes, they will just have to sit there in their cars. When human beings are this stupid, they need to lose their rights to make these decisions.
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whats the solution to this-- do they need to place radar sites on mountain tops and/or ridge tops?
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I thought 2018 exceeded 2003 in snowfall in April? Also what date in April in 1950 did we get those 2 inches of snow? Thanks! I believe 1983 also had 1-2 inches of snow in April, on the 19th-- was that our latest measurable snowfall? Note that April 2006 had 1-2 inches of snow which was recorded as 0.1 at NYC but 1.0 at JFK
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these algae blooms and dead zones in the water linked to excessive rainfall and runoff along with toxic pesticides and fertilizers being used seems to be a new issue linked to our changing climate.
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Please see what I just posted about algae blooms and dead zones in the water (likely linked to our new excessive rainfall along with dangerous pesticides and fertilizers being used.)
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In general though it just seems like it is no longer possible for NYC itself to get below -2 since it's been many decades since that's happened. What I find amazing is that NYC even reached -1 on Christmas morning 1980 and December has historically been a difficult month (in recent history anyway) for NYC to get to single digits, let alone below zero.
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There's also concern about estuaries and surrounding waters....people have this false sense of security that we don't need to improve our environment. https://news.stonybrook.edu/featuredpost/long-island-water-quality-assessment-shows-cause-for-concern/ Scientists and environmental activists are raising the alarm about an increasing trend of poor water quality on the South Shore and in the Long Island Sound. Those who came out to Patchogue to check out the water say nitrogen runoff is primarily to blame for toxic algae blooms and rust tides that have made the South Shore and Long Island Sound inhospitable for thin fish and shellfish to thrive. Strong weather events like tropical storms have become more prevalent and increase nitrogen runoff. Christopher Gobler, a professor with Stony Brook University’s School of Marine and Atmospheric Science, says scientists are predicting storms will become more frequent, which is going to impact more than just fish in the area. “What that means is the amount of nitrogen going from land to sea is going to increase and continue to threaten our water bodies, our marine life and even frankly, human health,” Gobler says. Centereach resident Marguerite Mencke says she can see the water issues every time she goes fishing. “This is our future, this is what our kids are eating, this is what we are eating,” Mencke says. “We want it as clean as possible.” Scientists say fixing outdated septic systems and getting more homes on sewer systems is one solution to reducing nitrogen in the water. https://longisland.news12.com/scientists-raise-concerns-about-trend-of-poor-water-quality-on-south-shore-long-island-sound The outbreaks of blue-green algal blooms in 2021 is a concern for both human and animal health. For the past six years, Suffolk County has had more lakes with blue-green algal blooms than any other of the 64 counties in New York State, a distinction that is likely to be repeated in 2021. Blue-green algae make toxins that can be harmful to humans and animals, and have been linked to dog illnesses and dog deaths across the U.S. and on Long Island. Of equal concern is the widespread nature of dead zones across Long Island. Dead zones are regions of low or no oxygen. The NYS Department of Environmental Conservation indicates that marine waters should never have less than three milligrams of dissolved oxygen per liter to allow fish to survive. Through the summer, more than two dozen sites across Long Island did not meet this criterion, and in several cases, fish kills occurred. “The data reveals that many sites are not suitable habitats for sustaining fish and shellfish,” added Gobler. The occurrence of events like brown tide and rust tide have led to the collapse of critical marine habitats such as seagrass, major fisheries on Long Island such as scallops and clams, and the coastal wetlands that help protect waterfront communities from the damaging impacts of storms. Groups like The Nature Conservancy have been working for more than a decade to revive and restore these habitats and shellfish, but have been challenged by algal blooms such as those witnessed during Summer 2021. “It has gotten to the point that we have to watch News 12 each week to see where it is safe to swim or fish,” said Carl LoBue, senior scientist for The Nature Conservancy. “The research findings are conclusive. We know how to fix this, and it’s time to act. The longer we wait to fix our water quality problems, the longer it will take and the more expensive it will be.” https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58657224 Air pollution is even more dangerous than previously thought, the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned, as it slashes maximum safe levels of key pollutants such nitrogen dioxide. An estimated seven million people die prematurely each year from diseases linked to air pollution, the WHO says. Low- and middle-income countries suffer the most, because of their reliance on fossil fuels for economic development. The WHO puts air pollution on a par with smoking and unhealthy eating. It is urging its 194 member states to cut emissions and take action on climate change, ahead of the COP26 summit in November. Decade by decade, the limits for what's considered a safe amount of pollution are being ratcheted down. It's not news to people suffering from heart and lung problems that toxic particles and gases can harm people at much lower levels than previously thought. The changes to the guidelines mean the UK's legal limits for the most harmful pollutants are now four times higher than the maximum levels recommended by the WHO. The trouble is that the worst pollution - tiny particles which can be breathed into the lungs - is so terribly hard to stop. Pollution comes from vehicle exhausts and gas central heating. But harmful particles are also released into the air in other ways - or formed in the air in reaction with other chemicals. Particle sources include paints, cleaning fluids, and solvents. Add to that car tyres wearing on the road, or brakes - meaning that even electric cars can't offer a perfect solution. How many people know that farm slurry also gives off gases that contribute to deaths in cities? That's why the new advice is so challenging to governments. If you live in a city, it's very hard to escape pollution, however hard you try. The new guidelines, released on Wednesday, halve the recommended maximum for exposure to tiny particles called PM2.5s. These are produced by burning fuels in power generation, domestic heating and vehicle engines. "Almost 80% of deaths related to PM2.5 could be avoided in the world if the current air pollution levels were reduced to those proposed in the updated guideline," the WHO said. It is also cutting the recommended limit for another class of microparticles, known as PM10s, by 25%. UK to set limits on harmful airborne particles Pollution increases risks of Covid, study finds President found negligent over Jakarta filthy air Other pollutants singled out in the guidelines include ozone, nitrogen dioxide, sulphur dioxide and carbon monoxide. Air pollution is linked to conditions such as heart disease and strokes. In children, it can reduce lung growth and cause aggravated asthma. "Improving air quality can enhance climate change mitigation efforts, while reducing emissions will in turn improve air quality," the WHO says. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-58461907 Living in areas of high air pollution increases the risk of hospitalisation with Covid-19 a new study has found. Imperial College London researchers also found evidence people living in polluted areas may have an increased risk of catching the disease. The review is the most "comprehensive overview" of studies on air pollution and coronavirus, researchers said.
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This https://www.highwaterstandard.com/blog/long-island-water-quality A high-quality water filter can purify your drinking water and protect it from the contaminants listed below. Liz Moran, who is the Environmental Protection Policy Director of NYPIRG, has stated that Long Island’s water contains harmful levels of PFOA, 1,4-dioxane, PFOS, and PFAS. 1,4-Dioxane The water on Long Island has been found to have harmful levels of 1-4-dioxane. This is a synthetic chemical that is flammable and resistant to biodegradation. The Environmental Protection Agency has classified 1-4-dioxane as a likely carcinogen, meaning that it probably causes cancer with long-term usage. In the short-term, 1-4-dioxane exposure can cause irritation of the throat, eyes, and nose. Other symptoms include liver and kidney damage. PFOA (Perfluorooctanoic Acid) PFOA is considered to be an emerging contaminant – this classification of contaminants refers to a material or a chemical that has either a potential, perceived, or real threat to the environment or to human health. PFOA is classified as one since it is pervasive and mobile within aquatic environments and the atmosphere. This synthetic contaminant’s most widely produced form is ammonium salt. According to the EPA, certain exposure levels of PFOA may result in birth defects, kidney and testicular cancer, and other adverse symptoms. PFOS (Perfluorooctane Sulfonate) PFOS is another emerging contaminant that Long Island’s public water has high levels of. The same EPA study showed that exposure to PFOS can cause effects like liver tissue damage, cholesterol changes, fetus developmental effects, and cancer. PFAS (Per- and Polyfluroralkyl Substances), the family of similar chemicals including PFOA/PFOS PFAS refers to a family of man-made synthetic chemicals, including the aforementioned PFOA and PFOS. These chemicals have been produced worldwide since the 1940s. Out of all the substances in the PFAS family, PFOA and PFOS have been studied and produced the most. These chemicals are both persistent, meaning that they are highly resistant to breaking down. They build up in your body’s system over time, causing adverse health reactions. This is why it is crucial to use a high-quality filter to purify Long Island’s drinking water. If you’re ready to start drinking clean water in Long Island, we recommend checking out our favorite water filters. and this https://bronx.news12.com/nassau-provider-informs-customers-their-drinking-water-may-contain-cancer-causing-chemicals Some Nassau residents have received letters from their water provider saying that their drinking water might contain toxic contaminants. The notices are part of a process passed into law last year. The Water Authority of Western Nassau County sent the letter out, alerting residents that the water supply contains cancer-causing chemicals known as PFOS, PFOA and 1,4-dioxane. Last August, the state passed a law that water providers must work immediately toward removing these contaminants if they are found in drinking wells. If the contaminants could not be removed within a three-month period, water authorities could apply for more time with a deferral. However, if the deferral is granted, customers must be contacted with information letting them know that the water doesn't meet New York's new drinking water standards. According to the New York state Department of Health, 21 water providers in Nassau and Suffolk have applied for more time to get the cancer-causing chemicals out of its water. The deferral gives the water provider two years or more to get filtration systems up and running. Kris Thomas, a mother of three from Floral Park, was among those to receive the concerning letter. She says she was shocked. "They are basically informing us that we are consuming a cancer-causing agent and continue drinking this until we get further news in a year and half," says Thomas. "It is infuriating and upsetting that residents are getting letters from their water supplier here on Long Island telling them there is now contamination in your water and it will go on for another two years until we get the treatment installed," says Adrienne Esposito, of Citizens Campaign for the Environment. "That's unacceptable, the public shouldn't accept it and we don't accept it." According to the Nassau County Health Department, 17 water providers have applied for more time to get the cancer-causing agents out of the water. The Suffolk County Water Authority says they have also applied for deferral for its water supply.
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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Ending the subsidization would be a great step towards accelerating this change. I think what many are worried about is how quickly they can be adapted in underprivileged parts of the country as well as underprivileged parts of the world, even knowing the enormous negative health impacts of fossil fuels. That's where the subsidies should go, to quickly accelerating renewable energy adaptation in underprivileged parts of the country and the world. -
I wonder why Philly got almost double that of NYC
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what caused it to decline after 1910?
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But then why did we lack snow during the 70s and 80s aside from 1977-78? Also how does Newark get close to -10, being an airport, while Central Park hasn't gotten below -2 since the 1940s?
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Chris it didn't happen in April 1996 on the 9th ?
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Sadly a lot of it originated here. Still when we find people in positions of power who espouse these views, they need to be gone.
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I thought we had one of these alerts just last year didn't we? When the air around here was yellow because of particulates from distant wildfires made it here?
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That might be for NYC but it isn't the case on Long Island where I can't drink tap water during the summer (I don't drink tap water anyway, it's highly filtered to take out whatever it is that made me sick whenever I drank it-- reports are it's anything from pesticides from farm run off to high metal quantity)
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Compared to the 80s it seems worse, the higher humidity isn't a good thing either, it traps air particulates closer to the ground, like NO2. Air pollution is the number one killer on the planet. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58657224