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With these projections I think we break the Jan 1932 records for highest avg Jan temp and also fewest number of 32 or lower lows and every day of the month will be above average.

Thats the one I remembered from the 1780s! Wow, that was today?! I mentioned the cannon thing in a previous post. Please see if you can find the 100" snowfall seasons that happened in NYC and PHL back in the 1860s, 1840s, 1830s, and prior. I think either 1836 or 1838 (or both) were a couple of those years as well as 1867 and earlier in the 1800s, maybe 1804 or 1808 or both. Also ironic to see 2002 on here as this year reminds me of that one. Were those temps the highest we attained that entire month too?

you're all forgetting about 2002-03 which was superior to all the others for longevity and largest snowfall also it was 2013-14 that had the rain mixes, 2014-15 was MUCH colder.

02-03 rocked and was our last complete winter.

I see 2019-20 isn't in the JFK list, so they must have had snow after Central Park that season?

Nice, was 1972-73 also JFK's lowest recorded snowfall for the season, Chris? How much did they get? I take it 2019-20 had snow after NYC at JFK since it isn't in the snowless list? Do you have the record for most days in a row above normal and least 32 or below lows too? Is JFK on pace for those records too? Thanks!

Tied with 1932! Let's go for that record! ;-)

If it's going to be 2, might as well be -2 and make it really memorable.

Roger there has to be some source for winter temps and snowfall prior to 1870, even going back to the 1700s. I think it would be fascinating to find out what our coldest actual temperatures were and what the actual highest snowfall was. What I've been able to piece together is the lowest temp ever record in the city was -16 (so very close to the February 1934 record) which was back in January somewhere in the 1780s. Cannons were dragged across the Hudson river and stores were set up in the middle of the river. Both NYC and PHL had winters with 100" of snowfall a few times during the 1800s, the latest was just before official recordkeeping began in the 1860s, but it also happened before that in the 1830s and 1840s and earlier.

T as in Trace of snow lol. Or as I like to put it 0.T

I like that your projection for the mean is rising ;-) I still think we will beat Jan 1932, and I really like the overnight mins to get us over the top. What was the high low split today Don?

My preference would be high end moderate, something along the lines of 2002-03 or 2009-10 Obviously we need blocking and other things to line up too otherwise we would get something like 1994-95

Others have said that the "cold is coming in Tuesday" in reference to a possible snow event Tuesday night, but that really isn't all that cold, it's average at best. I bet that we'll still have highs near 40 with that first airmass, regardless of what the models are saying (they've been underdoing temps by 5 degrees or even more.)

Not this first colder airmass that one will be going down to Texas first. The real arctic airmass is the one that comes at the end of the week correct? The first one is just average cold.

I still think that we'll build enough of a cushion so that the marginally cold air on Tuesday won't really matter-- it's still 50 degrees and I dont see it getting lower than 45 tonight, Don. Same for tomorrow night. Hopefully we boost the average to 44, where EWR is at, and that should be enough of a cushion for the new record.

Oh the split was 60/33 on the 30th? Wow thats quite the split...a cold front must have come through that night too. Were the first 30 days of January above normal that year too, Don? So far our lowest January temperature has been 28, I don't see that changing, so that could be another way we beat 1932. You know if we don't beat 1932 numerous people are going to say that since we weren't warmer, this is cyclic and can't be human caused climate change.

My personal favorite is the Upside Down Model that has the earth's core in the stratosphere.....talk about a sudden stratospheric warming event lol.

That may happen after that 4 day cold shot next week.

I would love to see where we stand after the 30th this month. Were 1-30 above normal in 1932 also?

Don if you get a chance, please do the 1-30 comparisons of both months after the 30th splits come out. It would also be interesting to see if that month had every day above normal right up to the 31st.

and that was such a cool month too lol The only other ones I can think of were October 2005 and August 2011.... both were so rainy! And August 2011 after that extreme scorcher of a July with one of the hottest days ever seen in these parts.

Can't say Dublin or London since it snows there too lol.

How much though? I didn't see an arctic shot coming in on the "last day" of the month in 1932 Do you have access to the high low split of that day, thanks in advance if you do. Keep in mind I believe that day will be near normal as the real cold air doesn't look to come in until Tuesday night.

I like it too and it preserves religious sabbaths which the other ones didn't. From what I read about the other ones, the UN considered adopting them back in the 50s but the US was the one who always objected because of strong opposition (to the point of threatening to remove the organization's tax exempt status-- oh the irony, since religious organizations get carte blanche on that lol) of religious leaders who wanted their sabbath to remain on the same day every week (and the last one is the only one that preserves that-- since it adds an entire leap week every 7 years or so rather than a day or two at the end of the year that are considered holidays and not assigned to any day of the week.)

I remember we had snow encrusted daffodils in April 2003. It didn't look like the snow damaged them at all and they looked pretty with some snow on them.