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It's still snowing at Riverhead? Seems so on the radar

Ended around 3 AM here, nice 5 hours of snow 10 PM to 3 AM most of the time near freezing. Fell at variable rates, light to moderate. Accumulated on tree branches, electric poles, power lines, bushes, fences, grass, rooftops, cartops, etc. Maybe half an inch but probably less. Probably more like 0.1-0.25. Not going to measure this lol.

Snowfall rate has revved back up to moderate here, this little storm just keeps on going!

My bad I thought everyone did, on radar it looked like that band swept right through the area.

"italian" american isn't really italian, it's processed crap that deserves to be in the trash \

Leonardo Da Vinci was enough, he was the GOAT of everything.

Nothing on the streets or sidewalks or the driveways or anything with concrete on it (except maybe black ice?) but rooftops, bushes, trees and cartops all have a nice coating of fresh new snow on them.

0?! Feels like one of those old style 80s winters already.

That storm is a hugger to have any kind of decent snow you'll have to be well inland.

This is actually our second snow. We had a narrow band of snow showers in November, this is the first measurable/accumulating snow though.

Love that violet and indigo, looks amazing on the snow!

Got accumulations? Down to 32 here been snowing for a couple of hours and roof tops and trees are covered (a thin layer but it still counts for our first measurable snow.) The snow intensity varies, from light to moderate.

Looks like a slightly tamer version of that long duration Ground Hogs Day 2021 storm. Coastal hugger like that one too.

This description, even on the outer edge of the eclipse is pretty amazing. Wish we had gotten to see this. https://www.space.com/mars-at-opposition-full-moon-dec-07-2022 it was closest at 10:56 pm here. Mars was one minute south of the southern edge of the moon For places like Huntsville, Knoxville, Philadelphia and New York, Mars will come to within just 1 arc minute of the moon's limb; they'll almost seem to touch each other. To the naked eye, Mars will look like an amber jewel on the bottom edge of the moon. From Boston the gap between Mars and the moon's limb is even smaller: just 0.6 arc minute, roughly equal to the apparent width of two Mars diameters! Where to see the moon eclipse Mars As a bonus, those who are located north and west of a line running roughly from Piedras Negras, Mexico to Louisville, Kentucky to Seabrook, New Hampshire will see the moon occult Mars. Refer to the US map. Those positioned south and east of this line, however, will see the moon miss the planet entirely, barely passing just above it (called an appulse). But for an observer fortuitously positioned exactly on, or immediately adjacent to that line — it's actually a narrow path about 21 miles (34 km) wide — the lower limb of the moon will appear to literally graze Mars as it passes by. For those fortuitously situated along the northern edge of the path, the planet's dazzling topaz disk may appear to disappear completely, then reappear intermittently in lunar valleys. In contrast, along the southern edge of the path, Mars' northern edge will only briefly touch the limb of the moon. Among towns and cities located within the path are Morgantown, WV; Scranton, PA; Hudson, NY; Northampton, MA; Lowell, MA and Seabrook, NH. Refer to the Mars occultation graze path maps. Unlike a star which is a pinpoint of light and would disappear and reappear in an instant, Mars appears as a small disk in telescopes; owing to its relatively large angular size (17.2 arc seconds in diameter), the occultation will occur at a rather "leisurely" pace. So the disappearance of Mars behind the moon's bright limb for most places, will take anywhere from about 40 seconds to almost a minute (or even longer where the moon's limb approaches it at a slant).

It almost seems like a combo of Dec 2003 and Jan 2011. More like Dec 2003 though because Round 2 with that underperformed here. Jan 2011 was a case where it actually overperformed and we got close to 20"!

It's interesting that when we had more el ninos (during the 80s) we also had our lowest snowfall averages.

December 1995 was an underperformer....we were supposed to get 15-20 inches of snow in that storm and somehow ended up with about 8 lol. LGA got 14 and Islip got 11. That was one of the biggest differences I've ever seen between JFK/NYC (who both got about 8) and LGA with 14. That was a two or even three day storm and a jet skid off of the runway at JFK on the second day and ended up in Jamaica Bay. Snow cover from that storm stuck around for the Jan blizzard. We had snowcovered backroads on Long Island the entire time between the two storms.

I dont believe avg temperatures mean much anymore, you can get snow with both positive and negative departures, avg temp is just bookkeeping

why are la ninas more common than el ninos? imagine if we had a 3 year el nino lol

Jan 1996

I hope he's okay, you know he'd be here when everyone was panicking and jumping ship.

How low did the AO/NAO get in December 2010, Don? Below -5 SD?

Those 80s Decembers were amazing for cold.....December 1980 may have had our coldest Christmas of all time, -1, and even a white Christmas (although it was just a dusting), December 1983 was another very cold December as was December 1989 (coldest overall December which was amazing to get in the late 80s but a historic flip for January, February and March after what we had in November and December.)

I can't believe no one mentioned or even talked about (not even in the media) the very rare perihelion Mars occultation by the Moon last night! I don't think it was visible from NY but it would have been a close call. It was cloudy when it happened anyway but I didn't even know about it until this morning! Next one is in Jan 2025 and that's going to be an aphelion occultation so Mars won't be as bright. https://www.newsweek.com/occultation-mars-eclipse-full-moon-1765312 Mars is about to pass behind a full cold moon in an occultation Wednesday night that can be seen across a large portion of North America and Europe. Mars' occultation is essentially an eclipse of the red planet, with the moon passing directly between the Earth and Mars. The planet will be seen starting to dip behind the moon Wednesday at around 10:30 p.m. ET, reappearing about an hour later. Even outside of the occultation viewing area, stargazers will be able to see Mars passing close by the full moon in what's known as an "appulse," near the eastern horizon, as seen from North America. This event marks the coincidence of three rare astronomical events: a full cold moon (December's full moon), the occultation of Mars and Mars' "opposition." https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20221208_16_100 The Moon will pass in front of Mars, creating a lunar occultation visible from parts of the Americas, Europe and Northern Africa. Lunar occultations are only ever visible from a small fraction of the Earth's surface. Since the Moon is much closer to the Earth than other celestial objects, its exact position in the sky differs depending on your exact location on Earth due to its large parallax. The position of the Moon as seen from two points on opposite sides of the Earth varies by up to two degrees, or four times the diameter of the full moon. This means that if the Moon is aligned to pass in front of a particular object for an observer on one side of the Earth, it will appear up to two degrees away from that object on the other side of the Earth.

Didn't we also have it in 2013-14 and 2014-15 though?