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They just listed this as NYC's last 10 inch snowstorm on TWC.
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Yes that was another hugger that dumped a lot of snow at the coast-- they are rare but they happen!
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yes it was great even on the western part of the south shore just like March 1888 was! why can't all our huggers be just like this?
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SW Nassau was a great place to be for this, even near Long Beach! Why can't all our huggers be like this?
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wow you'd think that a month which averaged a -AO would be much colder than it actually was. How negative was the NAO, Don?
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
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College football playoff system sucks, the selection committee should have forced an 8 team playoff system this year and drafted the meaningless bowls into it. I dont mind players who opt out because these other bowl games are absolutely meaningless -
wow even 2015 isn't on this list!
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Yep, 3 inches is the break even point, anything under 3 inches will easily get washed away by rain and will be insignificant although it will break the 700 day 1" snowfall drought- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
no debate, I've seen rain/snow maps that indicate that. and in the summer they are also much hotter because they have a much less influence from the ocean than long island does. Point being if you want more snow in the winter you have to deal with hotter weather in the summer (because you need less of an ocean influence for both more snow and more heat.)- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I've always wondered about that, I see the rain snow line is always much closer to the coast even in places south of here than up here.- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
ah so it varies and you can't use a single mileage for everyone....see I consider Manhattan has part of the coast.- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Mine is anywhere within 25 miles of the ocean.- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Remember 2014? ;-)- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
wow that makes it sound like an early spring event. Would rates also factor in-- the higher the rate the more chance it will be snow (and also if it occurs mainly at night?)- 3,610 replies
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at the same time we can't use the entire climate history of every station either though because these are varying periods for different places so it would be an apples to oranges comparison (for example comparing Central Park to JFK airport, one's period of record began in the 1860s while the other's began in the 1950s lol.) So I think at least doubling that recorded history period to 1950-onwards makes sense because most of our reliable airport stations began keeping records in the 1950s.
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I dont like 30 year averages either, it's a very arbitrary number to use.
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Maybe Bald Hill will get significant snow lol- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Theoretically if that's the case then the amount of snowfall could vary a lot based on elevation. There are hills in northern Manhattan and also on Staten Island that could get snow while the more commercial areas get rain?- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
What was going on before that showed a more suppressed track for several runs?- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I hope it's like 92-93 then, that was a fun winter with a lot of noreasters, even though many of them were mixed events it didn't keep us from enjoying the snow. 93-94 had a lot of mixed events too but was much colder and we had a historic February. I wouldn't mind that either, even if it's not as cold as that season was. You don't need a lot of cold to get a lot of snow.- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Honestly, I don't think people would care if we got like 4-6 inches of snow and then rain. Some people can be silly with their snow perfectionism (I'm guilty of it sometimes too), even if it's a 4-6 inch snow storm with rain after that-- it's still a snowstorm for us and that 4 - 6 inches of snow still counts! We had several storms like this in the 80s and early to mid 90s (including in 92-93 before we transitioned to much heavier snowfall winters) where we got 4-6 inches of snow and then heavy rain after that. It didn't keep us from enjoying the snow of course. Maybe this is a transitional year where we get average snowfall like 92-93 was and then we get a few much heavier snowfall winters like what happened after that season?- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
We are in a long term -PNA state aren't we? These last about 15 years? Because we seem to be getting inland runner or hugger tracks no matter the ENSO state now. It's useless to "hope" for a different Pacific state because this is the dominant state in this part of the cycle regardless of ENSO. The same was the case in the 80s.- 3,610 replies
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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
first snowfall in 2 winters actually if you go by the 1" per day stat- 3,610 replies
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I don't think he's a denier though (I think he stated that he understands the rate of change proceeds at different rates in different places.) I like more complete datasets too, and I think 1950 onwards is a good period to use since 1950 is when most of our records began to be kept in a more reliable way (it's also the beginning of the satellite era.)