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New highest amount on Long Island for this storm 9 inches at Locust Valley in northern Nassau County.

1783-84 was a lot better than 1995-96. We need those big volcanic eruptions!

This is where a layer of sleet that fell here first helps although it'll all be gone soon enough either way.

I don't even remember what his forecast was lol. You must have had one of the higher numbers though, did you measure this storm? The highest number I could find from either the city or long island was 8.1" from Glen Cove. Lots of 8.0s from northern parts of the city and northern parts of long island though.

8 inches does seem to be the high end for NYC-LI and there were widespread 8" amounts from The Bronx to the northern parts of LI. 4-6 for the southern and central parts of NYC-LI 4-8 was a really good overall prediction for our area.

4-8 was a good range for NYC and Long Island. The highest amounts I could find for either area was 8" in Woodlawn in The Bronx and 8" in a few different places on the northern part of Long Island in both Nassau and Suffolk County. 4-6 was what the rest of the NYC-LI area got outside of the northern parts of the city and the island. I'm not sure about that 7 inch figure from Coney Island, it seems to be a little too high.

You can do it because you guys up there got 8 inches of snow somehow, that's a big weenie lol.

This wasn't exactly a great storm, but it was a nice storm to get after 2 years of nearly nothing. Pretty much everyone got this storm wrong, even the people who thought the city would get a foot of snow or that north of the city would get barely anything lol. All the models were wrong too, don't beat yourself up about it lol.

Oh I feel the same way and I also feel that way about preserving the natural environment instead of these densely populated concrete jungles that humankind likes to pollute the planet with.

I measured 4.6 about 5 miles to the east of JFK's 4.2 so that is one number I can vouch for. Not sure about the other 2, a 4:1 snow to liquid ratio seems suspect lol. Also, add this in, JFK didn't change over completely to snow until 6:15, I actually woke up when the last sleet pellets were falling right around 6:08 or so. And there was only a coating of snow and sleet on the ground here until about 7 AM when Central Park already had an inch and a half on the ground and that's when the heavier bands moved in for us. So I guess we somehow caught up to them and then passed them and ended up with an inch to an inch and a half more than them lol.

I feel the same way, I just like taking pictures of it after it's finished. After that it can melt.

Thanks Don, JFK being at 32 for several hours during the storm (about 7 hours) might explain their higher ratio.

Yeah it hasn't happened in a few years lol. What happened to the backside of noreasters bringing down cold air from the north? The wind is coming from the north but no cold air lol.

Coney Island is not rural though... I'd say that 7 inch measurement at Coney Island is a bit suspect but who really knows? Could be they were under better banding. JFK had 4.2 which is in line with my 4.6 measurement.

about 4" here on the south shore of western Nassau too. I'd say 4-6 on the south shore and 6-8 inches elsewhere. Double digit numbers are for areas further inland.

The NYC and LGA similarity is why I agree. Also, JFK with 4.2 is right on target with my measurement of 4.6 about 5 miles to its east.

Yep, even melting on the trees lol 1 hour after it ended about half of it is gone. This is like ice cream, you've got to eat it quickly...

Don, can you give us the snow to liquid ratio for JFK and LGA too? Thanks. The only number out of those three I feel confident about is JFK, there is about 4 inches here-- or there was at the end of the storm-- it's been melting rapidly since it ended at 1 PM.

Yeah it's about 4" here, JFK seems to be right on target, I don't know about the other two lol. Do you have liquid equivalents of all these (preferably liquid equivalent of precipitation that fell as snow?)

Right I know 10:1 is just an average, but here we've had everything from 5:1 to 20:1. Our big noreasters are around 11:1-12:1 typically. My point wasn't about the ratio of snow to liquid, but the fact that there's much more variability with snowfall because of the ratio-- whether it's 5:1, 10:1 or something else. A small difference in rainfall is equivalent to a much larger difference in snowfall.

It would be interesting to see liquid equivalent.

I mean I don't know what else can be done-- 1 PM was basically when the last flake fell. It's difficult to monitor something 24/7. They probably take a measurement every 6 hours and then when the storm ends. I know they sometimes make bad measurements, and this could be one, but I don't think it's because it was done too late. I looked at the radar and the snow ended right around 1 PM.

But the snow ended here around 1 PM so it was right on time. What were the airport totals, Chris? I noticed the snow started melting here at 1:30 lol This really was like a spring storm.

It didn't threaten it actually came out and most of the snow on the trees has already fallen off or melted and we have large puddles on the streets now. An hour after it got done snowing, a significant amount of snow has already melted lol.

One thing everyone should always remember is that the snow to liquid ratio is usually 10:1, in other words, the typical variability of a rainstorm is magnified 10x in a typical snowstorm. So a difference between half an inch of rain and a full inch of rain becomes the difference between 5 inches of snow and 10 inches of snow. Which is why when people hear or see a forecast for 5-10 inches of snow they shouldn't assume they'll get 10 inches. It could just as easily be 5 inches.