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Oh, the crappy PAC isn’t quitting anytime soon. It’s still total garbage going into early March and I’m sure beyond that point
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If we are going to see a turnaround in March the blocking has to show up come the 1st week, and I mean legit blocking in the NAO and AO domains because the PAC is still going to suck then. Then we start racing against the clock. If the blocking starts getting delayed beyond the 1st week of March, I think we’re done. I consider 3/15 the cutoff for anything other than a freak event at our latitude, there’s too much working against us cold and snow wise at that point and beyond
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Agree. If we get to 3/1 and we don’t have a legit -NAO block or at least one definitely imminent, it’s probably over. The Niña background state (RNA/SE ridge) isn’t going anywhere. The MEI is still -1 and the SOI is still strongly positive. The MJO 8-1-2 fantasies look to fail again, the Niña standing wave convection is still there and it’s going to destructively interfere with the MJO wave as it tries to propagate into phase 8, the enhanced trades shearing it aren’t going to help either
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It just started
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If we take the EPS at face value and assume it’s even correct, a true -NAO doesn’t start developing until 3/1. So next week, besides the very strong -PNA and the SE ridge that we know is going to verify stronger than what it is being shown now, what’s to stop the 50/50 low and the associated confluence from simply sliding east out into the Atlantic? Where’s the -NAO block? Fact is there is no -NAO block next week to trap a 50/50 low, even if it’s as strong as what’s being depicted, which is most likely wrong. I think we can all imagine where this is headed
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I’ve seen it before. The models have been doing it since November. They show a knocked down SE ridge/WAR in the mid-long range only for it to verify much stronger as we move forward in time
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My questions are, how do we know it definitely downwells and couples with the troposphere? If it does, which side of the pole does it benefit? What does it actually do to the SPV? How long does it take to have tropospheric effects if any? This event is nothing like 2018. If we are to take the study Dr. Amy Butler shared, given when this SSWE happens, then we factor in the lag time, we are looking at mid-late March for the tropospheric -NAM (-AO) and -NAO to take effect, if that’s the case, it may be all for naught
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Different night, same ending. Seen this movie before and we know how it ends. That gradient is going to end up in New England next week. Massive full-latitude trough digging for gold in Baja and a SE ridge that you know will trend stronger as we get closer. Same old overpowering RNA that’s been there since November, same old pattern. And no, I don’t buy the 50/50 vortex being as strong as depicted either without a true west based -NAO block locking it in, seen that nonsense from the models before this year as well
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You are one to talk out of all people here. Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde. Besides not knowing what you’re talking about you flip flop from one extreme to another like a fish out of water. As fickle as the wind. Stand down
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I guess you don’t read twitter, and no not just children, so called “pro” mets have been doing this for months
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Persistence may be a downfall just like people who have been forecasting cold and snow and historic patterns for the I-95 corridor non stop since November have been epically failing. 4 months and counting
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The snide comment was from someone who lives in New Jersey
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I saw that and following that study, if it’s correct, the tropospheric response -NAM (-AO)/-NAO wouldn’t come until mid-late March. Good luck with that south of New England. Come 3/15, south of New England, it’s over Johnny, minus some freak, anomalous event
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IMO this ends up like all the others since November. Huge -PNA trough out west dug into southern CA and the models underestimating the SE ridge. That RNA has been a semi-permanent staple the last 4 months and it’s not going anywhere. The models have been grossly underestimating the SE ridge and the -PNA only to have them get stronger as we move closer in time all winter long. They’ve also shown phantom -NAO’s and 50/50 lows/confluence in the long and medium range only for them to disappear. In fact, they had a phantom -NAO block for early-mid February on the long range runs back in mid-late January. They all disappeared. Color me very skeptical. Not saying it can’t happen but if I’m a betting man, I’ll take the under
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Look out west, still a huge full latitude trough dug into Baja. The same exact issue that’s been there since November. In fact the -PNA is trending stronger the end of this month than it was a week ago. A -NAO did Jack diddly squat for us back in December. Here it is, RNA as far as the eye can see
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That RNA has been amazingly persistent and strong since November. It won’t die
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The twitterologists are ignoring the RNA and the fact that this SSWE is not going to be anything close to March, 2018 IMO. And they are back with their “MJO 8-1-2” hype. A bunch of people are going to end up with egg on their faces yet again. You can thank the usual cast of weenie mets for this
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The thing is, these studies getting thrown around showing the tropospheric response and NAM (AO) and NAO going negative aren’t going to happen until the 2nd or 3rd week of March if you follow the logic, given the date of this SSW. So to what avail does this actually help us if it takes until mid-late March? We will have a September/August sun angle overhead at that point and we will also be fighting climo and length of day
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Yes, caution is definitely warranted and given the fact that we are into mid-February now, even if this study is correct, we would be looking at mid-March to start seeing the effects and at that point it’s basically over
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As of 2/28 it still doesn’t have a -NAO. At that point the clock will really be ticking
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If we are still spinning our wheels come 3/1, it’ll be time to pronounce this one officially dead
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A -NAO is believable, a +PNA though? lol skeptical hippo
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Just reiterated what a meteorologist tweeted. I shared the link above
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