Maestrobjwa

Man I hope not...mercy (goes to panic room) That would unfortunately answer "the question". So snow means can predict temperature too?

I chalked that up to a Niño early Jan being a Niño early Jan, lol I'd like to see how many Niños actually produced in early January.

And when it comes to temperature?

Given all the fails the last 7 years, even something like this kinda brings on the "Oh look the other shoe dropping" when other things seem to be looking better. Not sure I can fully enjoy any of the good looks now knowing there's even a tiny chance the snow means are a red flag since they line up with what you've been talking about. Man...this is enough to make you pull your hair out, because we're kinda on the edge here, needing this season to produce...but all this with the foreboding "this may not work anymore" and it's mildly stressful. I hope we can get our KU MECS/HECS despite everything!

I echo someone else who asked this earlier: What did those snow means show for last week before it happened?

Now this part here...for me, it's not necessarily about "offsetting" the past 7. Those are past now. But it's the fact that if we don't see a MECS or HECS this season, we may be waiting even longer than the 8 years we already have been. And overall, we may be waiting longer for an above average season if we don't get it here. I know I don't want to have to wait through two more ninas and who knows what else...so there is more worry than usual about this year producing...because there is a high degree of uncertainty beyond this year. I get what you're saying about focusing on the here and now...I certainly did that last week. I enjoyed the heck out of those 8-9" (even made a snow angel...despite the fact that I forgot to move my legs...been awhile so I'm rusty ).

People need to be more compassionate given the unprecedented stretch we've been through. There is no arguing how bad it's been. So what is all this "Ugghhh why are people complaining???" Uh...hello? Have you seen the dang BWI/DCA snow totals lately?

Last 7 years: Least snowiest years in our history. What one could reasonably expect in our city climo wasn't even met. I don't get why people don't understand that...this is the worst stretch in many of our lifetimes. I'm 33 and have never gone 7 years without getting at leasd one footer, or a period with two less than 2-inch winters in a three year span. This is not what I consider the "normal" inconsistent snowfall. That 7 year period has felt worse to me.

Consider the reason why people are jaded, man. The last 7 years ring a bell? I don't get why folks are so perplexed about why some are the way they are. You fail that many times (and in different ways) in a seven year period...you tell me...Why is it hard to understand why somebody would be jaded?

Asking for the game Sunday: Game is at 3 pm...y'all think it's gonna be a washout, or more spotty/scattered as the coastal transfer (if I'm identifying it right) starts?

Not sure this fits under the same category. This would be a marginal setup in any decade (except maybe the snowin' 60s, lol). But the fact that some parts of the forum maybe able to squeeze something out of this is encouraging, imo

Well that would fly in the face of our history...lol It's not scientific, but man that post PD wall feels so real when you look at that list! For some reason...big ones just don't come after that. March 1993 (anomalous), March 1958...that's it, lol

I figured something was up when we didn't hear from ya But seriously, hope you feel better, man. Tis the season to be germy, unfortunately...rest up!

I feel like they overdo it sometimes...the roads look like they need lotion!

You are absolutely right. And this brought to mind another thing: These things look different from the vantage point of tracking. Here's what I mean: I only started to actively track in 2014 (in the midst of that active 3-year period of snow events). Prior to that, there was no knowledge of ridges and troughs, ehat was a favorable period vs a torch (although obviously you knew when it was warm, lol), the various mechanisms in place. So in the minds eye, you're not gonna remember the ebbs and flows as much, because it was like..."Awesome, the TV met said snow!" but the lags in between are less memorable because you didn't really know what was going on and just went about your life, lol So it is indeed possible to be born here, and yet start tracking and you still learn things about your climo. I think seeing the "why" helps you see things in a bit of a different way. After watching all the other enso states play out from a tracking vantage point...this is my first strong (but not ape super) Niño...so though I'm in my early 30s and have lived here all my life, I'm definitely still learning from THIS vantage point

Ya know...I'm not sure I could just lurk on here...particularly not during a niño winter. I just want to be in the discussions. Like...I'm interested in this stuff and of course have a passion for snow. And who else to discuss this stuff with? There's literally no other place where a bunch of people feel the same about snow. I'd like to think I was doing better...as I hadn't said anything terrible in the main thread. But once again, one bad post and a response to it that gets all manner of likes and thank yous--all a forum-wide indictment of one of a single bad post of mine. I've been working on managing my emotional outlook of all this, and I've been making progress....but dang it I just messed up again, lol Ah well...I won't be on here much if we get a nina next year, so I ain't going nowhere (but I do have to pick my wounds for a little bit)

Agree. You'd much rather have the door open for a chance through what is historically our best window for snow. In the moment, seeing the torch didn't feel great and I put a panic room post here. But @CAPE is right, though...in 14 days it COULD happen. We've done it before in small windows. But I also agree with you--we HAVE to get above average this year. More pressure than usual for that to happen, imo And to me...in order to get the above average totals some predicted, the need for a HECS or MECS goes up given the shorter window (nobody tell me about March please, lol) But again, we have done it before...it's not over just because of the next two weeks. All we can do is watch...

Whoops, looks like I messed up again. There goes all my progress here, lol Dang emotional post in the wrong place in the moment, smh Sorry y'all, I'll get back on the wagon.

Ah well, there goes all my progress...I done messed up in the main thread again. Dang emotional post...smh

Yeah that hurts...the cities will basically have two weeks to score again. And if we only START tracking on 8th? That leaves about 14 more days for a big one...ack.

Ah, I didn't see that part (I've been turning site blocker on and off in disgust all afternoon, lol) Alright then...warm water in Indonesia...BOOOOO!

Not sure I follow, lol If the hypothesis is correct then yeah they're causing the problem are they not? Making them public snow enemy No. 1 (unless the elephant is ultimately causing them instead)

I move that from here on we call Hadleys Badleys...they don't deserve our respect, lol

BADley cells. That's what they are...BADley. I am growing to detest those wretched things! Boo. BOOOO Hadley...BOOOOOOOO!

Ya know what...way too much bad news about next month and our future snow climo in the LR thread...and it's quickly fouling up my good mood. I was hoping for a big snow next month, but I may have to just let that go... I think I'm just gonna enjoy what my Ravens are doing right now! At least THEY aren't affected by Badley cells (yes I said BADley) and pac jets on roids....THEY are playing well