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September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
if it doesn't affect you of course you don't care. the attitude of the typical American -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
nope, it was a typo, take your asinine attitude elsewhere or you will be introduced to an avalanche of studies, here's another one https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp935 -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
SnowDemon replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Yup. I'm dying in urban hell. Anyway, I'm done here. -
I haven't seen one bad winter outlook yet for the east coast. Hopefully that holds.
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September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of limiting both noise AND light pollution. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
SnowDemon replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Um, you mistook melanin for melatonin. Please. No point in arguing with you. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
my sympathy for you living in Brooklyn, I grew up there, you can't even see 20 stars from there at night. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
SnowDemon replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
And there are studies that show that there are benefits as well, but yeah, not getting into that here. Already off topic. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
you are a sample size of one, so no, you're not evidence of anything. and we're not talking about suburban life either, there's way too much light and noise pollution in suburban environments too. we're talking about living in an area devoid of wasteful night time lights and noise. this is why cities like Flagstaff are shutting down their lights, there is no benefit to having street lights on at night pointing up at the sky. If you care or knew anything about science you'd know that already -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
yeah that was a typo on my part, and yes there is evidence on multiple levels that living in a densely packed area is awful for both mental AND physical health -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
https://theconversation.com/harvard-study-strengthens-link-between-breast-cancer-risk-and-light-exposure-at-night-75171 It states breast cancer but the original Harvard study mentions endocrine cancers and also includes higher prostate cancer with higher levels of light pollution A study from Harvard has found greater risk of breast cancer in women who live in neighborhoods that have higher levels of outdoor light during the night. The findings are based on the Nurses’ Health Study (NHS), which has for decades been advancing our understanding of risks to women’s health. For this study, epidemiologist Peter James and colleagues followed nurses in the NHS for breast cancer occurrence from 1989 to 2013. The home of each of 109,672 nurses was geocoded, and the average light level in the immediate neighborhood at night was estimated from satellite images taken by the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program. These estimates were updated over the 15-year follow-up period. By 2013, a total of 3,549 new cases of breast cancer had been diagnosed, about what’s expected among this number of women. The study found a direct relationship between a woman’s neighborhood nighttime light level before diagnosis and her later risk of developing breast cancer: The higher the light level, the higher the risk. These findings held even when taking into account many other factors that may also affect risk such as age, number of children, weight, use of hormone medications and a long list of additional potential confounders. Of importance if confirmed in more studies, the relationship was strongest in young women diagnosed before menopause. James also conducted many further subgroup analyses after the primary objective of the study had been verified; these subgroup findings may or not be seen in future studies. Two that stood out are that the association was confined to current and former smokers, and nurses with a history of night work. The study is significant because it adds a strong piece of evidence to the growing body of studies supporting the idea that excessive electric light exposure at night increases a woman’s risk of breast cancer. -
The further north you go, the lower the dews on everything
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September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
SnowDemon replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
And no, studies don't prove things. That's not how that works, lol. And regardless, I'm pretty sure you mean melatonin, and not melanin, lmao. Ok, I'm done talking science here. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
SnowDemon replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
The mental health aspect is totally dependent. I hate suburban life. And yeah, there is more to environmental impact than noise pollution. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
it really should have stayed that way, I find the parks near Bayside absolutely gorgeous. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
oh nice both light and noise pollution studies are from Harvard lol -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
you can post the study on light pollution and cancer too. -
September 2025 OBS-Discussion centered NYC subforum
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
thats correct and light pollution too, a Harvard study proved it increases the risk of developing cancer 30-50% as much as an unhealthy diet does. It's because light pollution blocks the release of melanin. -
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looks like dry out with frontal sweep but backside modest 850 mb anomaly persists. d-slope trajectories under full sun ( tho seasonally tepid) should send T's above climo
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Pretty sparse rainfall down here so far. I got 0.46" Sunday morning, but very little since then.
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We track Let's go !
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1.13" Nearly double what I had gotten the last 2 months combined.
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40s dews here this weekend.
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Meh