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December 2025 Short/Medium Range Forecast Thread


John1122
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@Holston_River_Rambler, you jump right in here with your nifty short range graphics.  I don't want to be taking your job!  Here is the RGEM right before the map above.  It dissipates as it heads south.  As we so overnight, sometimes it hold together.  So, let's watch the trend on this.  The 3k NAM is generally just a higher elevation event.  With such a strong air mass coming in, the jet streak with this might help.  Also, a lot of models won't see lower level moisture getting squeezed out w/ below zero air masses.  This might be 15:1 or 20:1 type of stuff.

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I am going to try a new way of posting.  For the 12z suite, I am going to put all note here instead of 5,000 posts in a stream of thought fashion.  I will simply edit and amend this post as the 12z suite progresses.  Feel free to comment!

12z CMC...is having nothing to do with a prolonged warm-up prior to 240.  It has the Dec 20th cold front.  

12z GFS...Doesn't have the 20th cold front, but has one on the 23rd.  The 12z GFS...gasp...erases the furnace by 276.  

JB mentioned that last night that all it will take to dump more cold into the East would be for a piece of that trough to split and head eastward.  That is the 12z GFS.

haha.  The 12z GFS has snow showers along the Virginia apps on Christmas Eve.  What a turn of events.

Feedback.  Have I talked about that?  Well, the deterministic models (GFS and CMC) have less of it over the NW.  That, in turn, reduces the raging chinook which develops with west-east flow.  It really isn't a problem to have a ridge roll through in front of a NW PAC slp.  It is a problem when that slp spins, reforms, spins, reforms, spins....  With that feedback loop lessened, the trough gets kicks eastward and an Alaska ridge pops.

The MJO plots on CPC are much more favorable than the previous days.  That may be why we are seeing more cold fronts on medium and long range modeling.  Will we see a complete reversal of the heat wave back to a cold shot?  Probably not, but just a normal ridge or two rolling through is not a huge problem.

If I was waiting on cold and saw the GFS/CMC begin to eat into it the way they just did the warm spell...I might call that a can kick and question whether it actually comes to pass in large quantities.  

To me, this looks like a back-and-forth pattern w/ a great cold source which comes eastward with any kind of amplification whatsoever.  

Good trends.  I will have a separate post on the Euro if it is similar.

Feedback on the GFS 300+ is pretty apparent off the West Coast.  If that is feedback, the trough roars into the East. ---> almost the exact some thing which led to the head fake(warm up) for earl December.  It pumps the ridge in the East.  Without out, that amplification is less or absent.

When we see a storm exit Washington state, drift southwest with no steering, and it amps up...that doesn't look realistic to me per the GFS.  If that gets worked out, a colder east is possible and even likely.

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