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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...


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54 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

The first week of December is warming on guidance. MJO, teleconnections forecasts are all moving to warm phases.

I don’t get the excitement at all. 
 

MJO phase 7 in November is actually N to cold but we are moving into December as we settle into that phase. I think this is leading to some false cold signals on guidance. Of course I’m speaking wrt where most of us live—close to the coast. The modeling showing more ridging in the SE and cold dumping over the central CONUS is much more in line with the tapestry of MJO phase 7 in December.

That's what the models are showing. Models are getting colder for the first week thanks to the negative epo. Mjo is on the way through 7 into 8 through December.  Bigger press.

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37 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

That's what the models are showing. Models are getting colder for the first week thanks to the negative epo. Mjo is on the way through 7 into 8 through December.  Bigger press.

Better hope it’s not the 6z gfs or AI stuff 

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5 minutes ago, dendrite said:

lol. Front is through at that point, but it’s a week out. Whatever helps you sleep. A dew of 55° as we enter December isn’t the end of the world. 

No one is saying that…but the point is you were busting balls(and that’s fine)…but that prog won’t even be close to happening like it showed on the 29th now.  And a couple days later has cooled significantly as well, and that’s a week out still, so that is still in question too.   

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Just now, WinterWolf said:

No one is saying that…but the point is you were busting balls(and that’s fine)…but that prog won’t even be close to happening like it showed on the 29th now.  And a couple days later had cooled significantly as well, and that’s a week out still, so that is still in question too.   

lol you’re trying to bump troll me with a d11 op run of dews that I was only trolling with to begin with. The timing may be different, but we’re in line for some warm sectors regardless. But whatev.

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2 minutes ago, dendrite said:

If we got an amped up cutter it could end up 60/60. What difference does it make in the scheme of things? Either it snows or it’s some varying temp of rain over bare ground.

The difference is…the prog was way wrong. And the new prog is substantially cooler now than it was a few days ago. That’s the takeaway.
 If it makes you sleep better to not admit that, that’s cool too. 

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3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

lol you’re trying to bump troll me with a d11 op run of dews that I was only trolling with to begin with. The timing may be different, but we’re in line for some warm sectors regardless. But whatev.

And Why is it ok for you to troll me with a day 11 op?  So when I give it back to you, you got a million excuses for why it’s not so?  

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I was just going through my analogs and I found the dew on 12/1 is critical for the upcoming winter. If it’s 52° or over Southington averages 20” of snow. If it’s under 52° they average 70”. So this will be critical tracking.

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4 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

The difference is…the prog was way wrong. And the new prog is substantially cooler now than it was a few days ago. That’s the takeaway.
 If it makes you sleep better to not admit that, that’s cool too. 

I sleep like shit every night because my cat crawls on my face at 5am wanting food.

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2 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I was just going through my analogs and I found the dew on 12/1 is critical for the upcoming winter. If it’s 52° or over Southington averages 20” of snow. If it’s under 52° they average 70”. So this will be critical tracking.

You’re funny bro…but it’s cool. :thumbsup:
 

Anyway..guidance is cooling, which is good to see. We’ll have some opportunities. 

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