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1 hour ago, Ahoff said:

Didn’t you want severe storms?  They cause destruction, like flash flooding.

It’s complicated, and I think I’ve discussed my position on this before. When I say I like severe, I don’t mean I want an EF-5 tornado to rip through downtown Pgh. I like a nice thunderstorm with wind every now and again. Not the kind of wind that snaps large trees in half, but I don’t mind seeing tree branches and limbs laying around after a good storm. Would love to see a tornado in the flesh just once before I die, but not in a populated area and certainly not in my backyard. There are severe weather fans all over these forums and most of them are probably not sociopaths.

What form of weather that I don’t like causes more deaths than any other? I don’t agree with people who like it, but I don’t fault them either. I know no one is rooting for death. Everyone has their preferences.

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42 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

It’s complicated, and I think I’ve discussed my position on this before. When I say I like severe, I don’t mean I want an EF-5 tornado to rip through downtown Pgh. I like a nice thunderstorm with wind every now and again. Not the kind of wind that snaps large trees in half, but I don’t mind seeing tree branches and limbs laying around after a good storm. Would love to see a tornado in the flesh just once before I die, but not in a populated area and certainly not in my backyard. There are severe weather fans all over these forums and most of them are probably not sociopaths.

What form of weather that I don’t like causes more deaths than any other? I don’t agree with people who like it, but I don’t fault them either. I know no one is rooting for death. Everyone has their preferences.

Yeah, and 90 is unlikely to kill many people.  I'd like to see 100 at some point too, but I'm not actively rooting for that.  Equating a 90 degree day to a 100 degree day is not an accurate comparison, but if we're going to compare them one to one, then we'd have to equate any severe weather as equals.  You know what I mean.  We don't want death, of course, that would be insane, but seeing an extreme is not that out of the box.

We all have preferences, so let's not put others down or make fun of them if someone is disappointed that they didn't get weather they like.

 

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2 minutes ago, Ahoff said:

Yeah, and 90 is unlikely to kill many people.  I'd like to see 100 at some point too, but I'm not actively rooting for that.  We all have preferences, so let's not put others down or make fun of them if someone is disappointed that they didn't get weather they like.

Winter is just inherently better, when everyone is on the same team. Apologies if I ever made fun of you for wanting heat.

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Just now, TimB84 said:

Winter is just inherently better, when everyone is on the same team. Apologies if I ever made fun of you for wanting heat.

No biggie.  We can poke fun, but just have to do it across the board.  And anyway we're approaching September where I do not want to see any 90s, 60s for the whole month.

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Severe Thunderstorm Warning
for Allegheny County

Issued by National Weather Service
Pittsburgh, PA
7:02 PM EDT Fri, Aug 13, 2021

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a


* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for... East central Washington County in southwestern Pennsylvania... Southeastern Allegheny County in southwestern Pennsylvania... Southwestern Westmoreland County in southwestern Pennsylvania... Northeastern Fayette County in southwestern Pennsylvania...


* Until 730 PM EDT.


* At 702 PM EDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from Donora to near South Connellsville, moving east at 25 mph.

HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts.

SOURCE...Radar indicated.

IMPACT...Damage to trees and power lines.


* Locations impacted include... Greensburg, Jeannette, Connellsville, Monessen, California, Donora, Mount Pleasant, Scottdale, Charleroi, Youngwood, West Newton, and New Stanton.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building.

Please report severe weather by calling 412-262-1988, posting to the NWS Pittsburgh Facebook page, or using Twitter @NWSPITTSBURGH.

&&
 

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Severe Thunderstorm Warning
for Allegheny County

Issued by National Weather Service
Pittsburgh, PA
7:21 PM EDT Fri, Aug 13, 2021

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a


* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for... Central Allegheny County in southwestern Pennsylvania...


* Until 800 PM EDT.


* At 720 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm was located over Stowe Township, or near Ross Township, moving east at 30 mph.

HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts.

SOURCE...Radar indicated.

IMPACT...Expect damage to trees and power lines, resulting in some power outages.


* Locations impacted include... Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Ross Township, McCandless Township, Monroeville, Franklin Park, Shaler Township, Plum, West Mifflin, North Side Pittsburgh, Baldwin, and Hampton Township.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building.

Please report severe weather by calling 412-262-1988, posting to the NWS Pittsburgh Facebook page, or using Twitter @NWSPITTSBURGH.

&&

 HAIL THREAT...RADAR INDICATED; MAX HAIL SIZE...<.75 IN; WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED; MAX WIND GUST...60 MPH

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Flash Flood Warning
for Allegheny County

Issued by National Weather Service
Pittsburgh, PA
7:45 PM EDT Fri, Aug 13, 2021

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a


* Flash Flood Warning for... Central Allegheny County in southwestern Pennsylvania...


* Until 1045 PM EDT.


* At 745 PM EDT, Doppler radar indicated thunderstorms producing heavy rain across the warned area. Around an inch of rain has fallen in short duration. Flash flooding is ongoing or expected to begin shortly.

HAZARD...Flash flooding caused by thunderstorms.

SOURCE...Radar.

IMPACT...Flash flooding of small creeks and streams, urban areas, highways, streets and underpasses as well as other poor drainage and low-lying areas.


* Some locations that will experience flash flooding include... Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Ross Township, Franklin Park, Shaler Township, Plum, North Side Pittsburgh, Hampton Township, Scott Township, Wilkinsburg, Robinson Township, O'hara Township, Bellevue, Carnegie, Kennedy Township, West View, Stowe Township, Oakmont, McKees Rocks and Crafton.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Turn around, don't drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood deaths occur in vehicles.

In hilly terrain there are hundreds of low water crossings which are potentially dangerous in heavy rain. Do not attempt to cross flooded roads. Find an alternate route.

&&

 FLASH FLOOD...RADAR INDICATED

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Thursday was a nasty one for us.  We basically had a three-hour thunderstorm that had varying intensities of precipitation.  A lot of close lightning strikes.  Makes me wish I had a camera setup on a tripod to record the whole thing.  Fortunately we got a break last night, as the worst of the storms skipped us over (perhaps because we used up all the energy the night before).

We've more than made up for the dull spring.  Now I'm kind of looking forward to cool fall weather, if such a thing will happen this year.

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5 hours ago, KPITSnow said:

I can’t tell you how insane it is that we have a tropical system being funneled up over us this week and the discussion from KPIT doesn’t even mention it. 

They finally put it in their discussion today, along with possible flooding concerns.

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Flash Flood Watch

Flood Watch
National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA
128 PM EDT Tue Aug 17 2021

OHZ049-050-058-059-068-069-PAZ008-009-014>016-020>023-029-031-
073>076-WVZ001>004-012-021-509>514-180300-
/O.NEW.KPBZ.FF.A.0004.210818T0900Z-210819T0000Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Harrison-Jefferson OH-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Venango-
Forest-Butler-Clarion-Jefferson PA-Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong-
Indiana-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Higher Elevations of
Westmoreland-Fayette-Higher Elevations of Fayette-Hancock-Brooke-
Ohio-Marshall-Wetzel-Marion-Monongalia-Ridges of Eastern
Monongalia and Northwestern Preston-Preston-Eastern Preston-
Western Tucker-Eastern Tucker-
Including the cities of Canonsburg, Thomas, New Kensington,
Punxsutawney, Caldwell, Pittsburgh Metro Area, New Martinsville,
Greensburg, Hendricks, Steubenville, Ligonier, Beaver Falls,
Butler, Indiana, Aliquippa, Rowlesburg, Terra Alta, Champion,
Coopers Rock, Hazelton, Murrysville, Weirton, St. Clairsville,
Tionesta, Kittanning, Woodsfield, Moundsville, Ford City,
Morgantown, Ohiopyle, Ambridge, Kingwood, Cadiz, Oil City,
Clarion, Uniontown, Latrobe, Monessen, Franklin, Canaan Valley,
Davis, Monaca, Wheeling, Wellsburg, Parsons, Lower Burrell,
Cambridge, Saint George, Donegal, Washington, Waynesburg,
Fairmont, Martins Ferry, Bruceton Mills, Brookville, and
Follansbee
128 PM EDT Tue Aug 17 2021

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY
EVENING...

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a

* Flash Flood Watch for Portions of east central Ohio, including the
  following areas, Belmont, Guernsey, Harrison, Jefferson OH, Monroe
  and Noble. Portions of Pennsylvania, including the following
  areas, Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Butler, Clarion, Fayette,
  Forest, Greene, Higher Elevations of Fayette, Higher Elevations of
  Westmoreland, Indiana, Jefferson PA, Venango, Washington and
  Westmoreland. Portions of West Virginia, including the following
  areas, Brooke, Eastern Preston, Eastern Tucker, Hancock, Marion,
  Marshall, Monongalia, Ohio, Preston, Ridges of Eastern Monongalia
  and Northwestern Preston, Western Tucker and Wetzel.

* From late tonight through Wednesday evening.

* Showers and isolated thunderstorms are expected Wednesday as the
  remnants of Tropical Storm Fred move through the region.  Heavy
  rain on increasingly saturated grounds will increased the threat
  for flash flooding. Rainfall amounts between 1.5 to 2.5 inches
  will be possible with potential for locally higher amounts.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

You should monitor later forecasts and be prepared to take action
should Flash Flood Warnings be issued.

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5 minutes ago, meatwad said:
Flash Flood Watch

Flood Watch
National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA
128 PM EDT Tue Aug 17 2021

OHZ049-050-058-059-068-069-PAZ008-009-014>016-020>023-029-031-
073>076-WVZ001>004-012-021-509>514-180300-
/O.NEW.KPBZ.FF.A.0004.210818T0900Z-210819T0000Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Harrison-Jefferson OH-Guernsey-Belmont-Noble-Monroe-Venango-
Forest-Butler-Clarion-Jefferson PA-Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong-
Indiana-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-Higher Elevations of
Westmoreland-Fayette-Higher Elevations of Fayette-Hancock-Brooke-
Ohio-Marshall-Wetzel-Marion-Monongalia-Ridges of Eastern
Monongalia and Northwestern Preston-Preston-Eastern Preston-
Western Tucker-Eastern Tucker-
Including the cities of Canonsburg, Thomas, New Kensington,
Punxsutawney, Caldwell, Pittsburgh Metro Area, New Martinsville,
Greensburg, Hendricks, Steubenville, Ligonier, Beaver Falls,
Butler, Indiana, Aliquippa, Rowlesburg, Terra Alta, Champion,
Coopers Rock, Hazelton, Murrysville, Weirton, St. Clairsville,
Tionesta, Kittanning, Woodsfield, Moundsville, Ford City,
Morgantown, Ohiopyle, Ambridge, Kingwood, Cadiz, Oil City,
Clarion, Uniontown, Latrobe, Monessen, Franklin, Canaan Valley,
Davis, Monaca, Wheeling, Wellsburg, Parsons, Lower Burrell,
Cambridge, Saint George, Donegal, Washington, Waynesburg,
Fairmont, Martins Ferry, Bruceton Mills, Brookville, and
Follansbee
128 PM EDT Tue Aug 17 2021

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY
EVENING...

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a

* Flash Flood Watch for Portions of east central Ohio, including the
  following areas, Belmont, Guernsey, Harrison, Jefferson OH, Monroe
  and Noble. Portions of Pennsylvania, including the following
  areas, Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Butler, Clarion, Fayette,
  Forest, Greene, Higher Elevations of Fayette, Higher Elevations of
  Westmoreland, Indiana, Jefferson PA, Venango, Washington and
  Westmoreland. Portions of West Virginia, including the following
  areas, Brooke, Eastern Preston, Eastern Tucker, Hancock, Marion,
  Marshall, Monongalia, Ohio, Preston, Ridges of Eastern Monongalia
  and Northwestern Preston, Western Tucker and Wetzel.

* From late tonight through Wednesday evening.

* Showers and isolated thunderstorms are expected Wednesday as the
  remnants of Tropical Storm Fred move through the region.  Heavy
  rain on increasingly saturated grounds will increased the threat
  for flash flooding. Rainfall amounts between 1.5 to 2.5 inches
  will be possible with potential for locally higher amounts.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

You should monitor later forecasts and be prepared to take action
should Flash Flood Warnings be issued.

&&

 

Damn, this storm is aiming right at us.

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42 minutes ago, RitualOfTheTrout said:

Interesting watching the radar this morning. Not often you can see a clearly defined center of circulation from a tropical storm / remnants moving right towards us.

 

Fred's starting to pivot too now. Hopefully we get this guy out earlier than forecasted.

 

One other thing I saw is there is another hurricane, Henri who looks like it may make a run at the New England. 

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Flood Advisory

Flood Advisory
National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA
925 AM EDT Wed Aug 18 2021

PAC003-007-125-129-181730-
/O.NEW.KPBZ.FA.Y.0055.210818T1325Z-210818T1730Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
Allegheny PA-Beaver PA-Washington PA-Westmoreland PA-
925 AM EDT Wed Aug 18 2021

The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has issued a

* Urban and Small Stream Flood Advisory for...
  Allegheny County in southwestern Pennsylvania...
  Central Washington County in southwestern Pennsylvania...
  Northwestern Westmoreland County in southwestern Pennsylvania...
  Southeastern Beaver County in western Pennsylvania...

* Until 130 PM EDT.

* At 925 AM EDT, Doppler radar indicated heavy rain. This will cause
  urban and small stream flooding. Between 1 and 1.5 inches of rain
  have fallen.

* Some locations that will experience flooding include...
  Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Mount Lebanon, Bethel Park, Ross Township,
  McCandless Township, Monroeville, Moon Township, McMurray,
  Greensburg, McKeesport, Franklin Park, Jeannette, Aliquippa,
  Gastonville, Shaler Township, Plum, West Mifflin, North Side
  Pittsburgh and Baldwin.

Additional rainfall amounts of 1 to 1.5 inches are expected over the
area. This additional rain will result in minor flooding.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood
deaths occur in vehicles.

Be aware of your surroundings and do not drive on flooded roads.

In hilly terrain there are hundreds of low water crossings which are
potentially dangerous in heavy rain. Do not attempt to cross flooded
roads. Find an alternate route.

&&

LAT...LON 4048 8043 4055 8042 4066 8026 4066 8016
      4059 7975 4041 7954 4023 7957 4022 7968
      4023 7986 4025 8013 4048 8036

$$

 

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