jaxjagman Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Figured it's time to start a thread,especially towards the 23-24 time frame.The models have shown since last evening into today some better PW's and convection even.The Euro is now showing the LLJ this afternoon at 50-55 kts.,0-6km shear is 65-70+ kts this coming Wednesday the 23rd this threat should be on going into the evening hours possible even without diurnal heating.But like all winter storms or any season in the Valley,we've seen what happens when we get convection further down south,we get pinched,we'll see.But this is looking more like a spring storm,look at the massive 591 ridge out in the Atlantic,rare event in the winter time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 NWS Birmingham has a really alarming AFD this afternoon NOW ON TO THE POSSIBLE HIGH IMPACT PART OF THE FORECAST...MODELS ARE IN SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER AGREEMENT TODAY REGARDING THEEVOLUTION OF THE UPPER-AIR PATTERN FOR WEDNESDAY...AND IT IS NOTGOOD NEWS. SEVERAL HISTORIC COOL-SEASON SEVERE WEATHER ANALOGS ARESHOWING UP BASED ON THE FORECAST UPPER-AIR PATTERN. MODELS HAVETRENDED TOWARD THE ECMWF SOLUTION WITH MORE VORTICITY IN THE BASEOF THE TROUGH ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL CAUSE STRONGSURFACE CYCLOGENESIS TO OCCUR TO OUR NORTHWEST AND SUBSTANTIALPRESSURE FALLS FARTHER SOUTH ACROSS INTO OUR AREA...LEADING TOSTRENGTHENING WIND FIELDS ACROSS A LARGE AREA. THE CONVECTIVEEVOLUTION WITH THIS SYSTEM REMAINS A BIT UNCLEAR...BUT IT APPEARSLESS LIKELY THAT COASTAL CONVECTION WILL BE A SIGNIFICANTINHIBITING FACTOR IN POLEWARD MOISTURE ADVECTION. ONE POSSIBLESCENARIO IS THAT RAIN DEPARTS TO THE EAST DURING THE MORNING ONWEDNESDAY...ALLOWING UNUSUALLY RICH GULF MOISTURE TO MOVE INLANDFROM THE NORTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO. IF THIS OCCURS...CONDITIONSCOULD BECOME RIPE FOR A TORNADO OUTBREAK FROM THE LOWER MS VALLEYEASTWARD INTO PARTS OF CENTRAL ALABAMA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN PARTS OF OUR AREA...SHOW ABUNDANT LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE BENEATH STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSERATES AND NEARLY TEXTBOOK WIND SHEAR PROFILES. IF THIS OCCURS...SUPERCELLS WITH TORNADOES...DAMAGING WINDS...AND LARGE HAIL WOULDBE POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. IT ISIMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH GULF COAST CONVECTION WILL BEPRESENT ON WEDNESDAY...AND IT MAY MAKE OR BREAK THIS FORECAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 NWS Birmingham has a really alarming AFD this afternoon I was just checking out some discos and was going to post this,thanks Carver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 I know it's the NAM long range,STP is up to 2.8 Wed evening for us in Mid Tn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ECMWF at 12Z was showing alarmingly high instability for you folks, had a tornado outbreak on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 ECMWF at 12Z was showing alarmingly high instability for you folks, had a tornado outbreak on it. Agree,the instability with the shear should not be over looked.I liked how it didnt show us getting crapvection down south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 NAM might be slower than most models but it still trended slower.Crazy dew points in the upper 60's,that's insane for winter in the Valley Edit:Opps,thats not DP's but 2m's,dp's are in the lower 60's,my bad,got excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Kinda like i've been feeling looking at the latest NAM if the convection down south is toned down this will be a legit severe event in the Valley,the wind shear would make this a surreal threat into the afternoon into the evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Not as much convection down south,but there is still enough to throw a big wrench in for us in the Valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0229 AM CST MON DEC 21 2015 VALID 231200Z - 241200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS WEDNESDAY ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO PORTIONS OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY... ...THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT ACROSS SURROUNDING AREAS OF THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...THE OHIO VALLEY...THE REMAINDER OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...AND THE EASTERN GULF STATES... ...SUMMARY... SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY IN A CORRIDOR ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. THUNDERSTORMS MAY ALSO IMPACT PORTIONS OF THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...AND EASTERN GULF COAST INTO SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...WITH SOME RISK FOR SEVERE WEATHER. ...SYNOPSIS... THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE FROM PRIOR MODEL RUNS CONCERNING THE LARGE-SCALE PATTERN EVOLUTION THROUGH THIS PERIOD. AMPLIFIED MID/UPPER TROUGHING ACROSS THE PLAINS IS EXPECTED TO DEAMPLIFY AS THE MOST PROMINENT EMBEDDED SHORT WAVE PERTURBATION ACCELERATES NORTHEASTWARD...FROM THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION. THIS IS EXPECTED TO COINCIDE THE WESTWARD EXPANSION OF SUBTROPICAL RIDGING ACROSS THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. BY EARLY CHRISTMAS EVE...AS ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT SHORT WAVE TROUGH...WITHIN THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES...APPROACHES THE PACIFIC COAST. IN LOWER LEVELS...THE SURFACE CYCLONE EXPECTED TO REACH THE LOWER CENTRAL PLAINS BY 12Z WEDNESDAY IS FORECAST TO RAPIDLY MIGRATE NORTH NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...INTO AND THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY. IT LIKELY WILL CONTINUE INTO ONTARIO WEDNESDAY NIGHT...WITH A TRAILING COLD FRONT ADVANCING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY...WHILE STALLING AND WEAKENING OVER THE OZARK PLATEAU AND SOUTH CENTRAL PLAINS. THE MOST PROMINENT STRENGTHENING OF LOWER/MID TROPOSPHERIC WIND FIELDS ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR OF THE CYCLONE IS EXPECTED FROM THE OZARK PLATEAU TOWARD THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE A BELT OF 90+ KT FLOW AROUND 500 MB MAY DEVELOP BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...MID-LEVEL FLOW AS FAR SOUTH AS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY SHOULD REMAIN MORE THAN AMPLE FOR ORGANIZED SEVERE STORM DEVELOPMENT...AND MODELS SUGGEST IT WILL REMAIN AT LEAST BROADLY CYCLONIC OVER VIRTUALLY ALL BUT THE GULF AND SOUTH ATLANTIC COAST STATES THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD. A BROAD AREA OF MODERATE TO STRONG SOUTHERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW /INCLUDING 40-50+ KT AT 850 MB/ WILL MAINTAIN MOISTURE RETURN OFF A MOIST AND UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO...INTO THE WARM SECTOR. HOWEVER...CLOUD COVER AND CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION MAY BE IMPACTING MUCH OF THE WARM SECTOR EARLY IN THE PERIOD...PERHAPS STILL INCLUDING A CLUSTER OR TWO OF STORMS NEAR CENTRAL INTO EASTERN GULF COASTAL AREAS. THE INFLUENCE OF THIS ACTIVITY ON SUBSEQUENT WARM SECTOR BOUNDARY LAYER DESTABILIZATION REMAINS UNCLEAR...AND THIS REMAINS THE PRIMARY UNCERTAINTY CONCERNING SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL FOR THIS PERIOD. ...LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO TENNESSEE VALLEY... THE RISK OF SEVERE STORMS STILL APPEARS MOST CERTAIN WITHIN A SWATH EAST NORTHEAST OF THE ARKLATEX THROUGH THE NORTHWEST MISSISSIPPI DELTA REGION. THIS IS WHERE A DEVELOPING MID-LEVEL DRY SLOT...IN ADVANCE OF AN AREA OF ENHANCED MID-LEVEL FORCING FOR ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE MID-LATITUDE WAVE...MAY ALLOW INSOLATION TO CONTRIBUTE TO WEAK TO MODERATE BOUNDARY LAYER CAPE BY MID-DAY. WITH THE ONSET OF LARGE-SCALE ASCENT...ORGANIZED SEVERE STORM DEVELOPMENT...INCLUDING SUPERCELLS...APPEARS POSSIBLE. LARGE HAIL...LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND A COUPLE OF TORNADOES ALL APPEAR POSSIBLE...WITH ACTIVITY SPREADING EAST NORTHEASTWARD...PERHAPS INTO AND THROUGH PORTIONS OF THE TENNESSEE VALLEY BY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. MID/UPPER FORCING FOR ASCENT BECOMES INCREASINGLY UNCLEAR IN THE WAKE OF THIS EARLY ACTIVITY...SOUTHWARD TOWARD THE GULF COAST. HOWEVER...LINGERING WEAK MID-LEVEL INHIBITION...COUPLED WITH SURFACE HEATING...AND PERHAPS WEAK LOW-LEVEL WARM ADVECTION...MAY ALLOW FOR DISCRETE STORM DEVELOPMENT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHEASTERN LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHWESTERN MISSISSIPPI. THIS SHOULD BE MOSTLY ALIGNED ALONG/WEST OF THE LINGERING 40-50 KT SOUTHERLY 850 MB JET AXIS...WHICH WILL CONTRIBUTE TO FAVORABLE SHEAR FOR SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING TORNADOES...AND MAY TRACK ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTH CENTRAL THROUGH EASTERN MISSISSIPPI AND WESTERN ALABAMA INTO EARLY EVENING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Models keep bumping up the STP in the SW section of the Valley.The NAM is ugly if that were verify,PDS in S/Mid/TN.late night.But take this with a grain of salt it's the NAM long range.Hope it is anyways,wouldnt be good while people are sleeping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClicheVortex2014 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Dr. Forbes says tornado outbreak is likely. All the models have some alarming parameters WEDNESDAYTornado outbreak likely, probably ongoing in the morning, in east TX, LA, south, central, and northeast AR, southeast MO, south IL, southwest IN, west KY, west and middle TN, west half AL, west FL panhandle, MS. TORCON - 5 west TN, east AR, MS, LA, east TX; 4 - west AL, middle TN; 3 - rest of area. The severe threat continues overnight in AL, west FL panhandle, middle and east TN, central and east KY, south IN. TORCON - 3 to 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Pattern match at upper levels and wind fields all levels suggests severe potential. I favor Euro with that southern stream energy. However surface details and timing of other rain offer still many questions. Looks like the average Day 3 winter situation in the South. I do not infer a major outbreak as I type on Monday. Looking for more certain clearing ahead of and along a pre-frontal surface trough. Sure thunder would be a nice gift, but huddling in the interior room with helmets and a mattress is not the kind of holiday family time I have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClicheVortex2014 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 More strong wording from BMX NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL324 PM CST MON DEC 21 2015.DISCUSSION...THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TUESDAY WAS REMOVED FROM THEFORECAST. CONVECTION NEAR THE GULF COAST SHOULD LIMIT INSTABILITYACROSS OUR AREA THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON.THERE IS GROWING CONCERN REGARDING THE SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIALFOR WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE POTENTIAL FOR DISRUPTIVECOASTAL CONVECTION CONTINUES TO DECREASE AS WE APPROACH THE EVENT.IN FACT...THERE IS LITTLE TO NO CONVECTION TO BE FOUND ON THE 4KMNAM...NMM...AND ARW MODELS AT 12Z WEDNESDAY. THIS IS EXTREMELYCONCERNING BECAUSE A BROAD WARM SECTOR WILL DEVELOP WELL INLAND IFTHESE MODELS ARE ACCURATE. WITH UPPER-LEVEL SUPPORT REMOVED FROMTHE GULF COAST...AND STRAIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOW INDICATED BY THESURFACE ISOBARS...I BELIEVE REASON FOR WIDESPREAD MODEL QPF ALONGTHE COAST IS MAINLY DUE TO CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK IN GLOBAL MODELS.THE LOW-AMPLITUDE NATURE OF THE TROUGH WILL ALLOW STEEP LAPSERATES TO OVERSPREAD A RICH WARM SECTOR. IF THIS WARM SECTORDEVELOPS...UPPER-LEVEL JET SUPPORT WOULD AID IN AIRMASS/CELLULARTYPE DEVELOPMENT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING WITH ANENVIRONMENT SUFFICIENT FOR LONG-TRACK SUPERCELLS AND TORNADOES.THE MOST FAVORABLE REGION FOR LONG-TRACK TORNADOES SHOULD BEACROSS THE NORTH AND WEST...NORTH OF THE 576 DM 500 MB HEIGHTCONTOUR...WHERE 500 MB WINDS WILL EXCEED 60 KTS. WE WILL HOLD OURTHREAT LEVELS STEADY FOR THIS UPDATE AND MAKE SURE WE DON`T JUMPTHE GUN. IF SHORT-RANGE MODELS TOMORROW AFTERNOON INDICATE LITTLETO NO GULF CONVECTION ON WEDNESDAY MORNING...AN UPGRADE TO THETHREAT WILL BE NEEDED.THE SEVERE THREAT SHOULD SLOWLY DIMINISH AFTER 03Z THURSDAY ASTHE BEST UPPER-LEVEL SUPPORT MOVES AWAY AND THE LOW-LEVEL JETWEAKENS. HEIGHT RISES WILL OCCUR ON THURSDAY...BUT A VERY MOISTAIRMASS COULD RESULT IN ISOLATED THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT NEAR ATRAILING CONFLUENCE ZONE. DEEP-LAYER SHEAR AND TALL CAPE PROFILESWOULD SUPPORT A LOW-END THREAT FOR ISOLATED DAMAGING WINDS ANDHAIL IF STORMS DEVELOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 You all know the rule about thunder in the mountains during winter...I am telling ya, it generally is true. Keep us updated all. Good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Stough Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just looking at the NAM-4K and it is getting a little scary to see some of the numbers coming in. However, the last couple of severe weather events the models have been bullish and the events failed to really live up to what was forecasted. So I am waiting for the actual day before getting too excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 ...SHORT WAVE NEAR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST MON......LOW PRESSURE FORMING OVER THE PLAINS/MIDWEST WED... PREFERENCE: 12Z GFS/12Z ECMWFCONFIDENCE: AVERAGE THE 12Z NAM CONTINUES TO HAVE PROBLEMS RESOLVING THE SHORT WAVECOMING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST MON...AND ITS TIMING OF THESHORT WAVE CROSSING THE NORTHERN PLAINS HEADED TO THE GREAT LAKESHAS BEEN VARIABLE. BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ISSUES...THE 12Z NAM ISNOT PREFERRED WITH THE SHORT WAVE...AND DEVELOPING SURFACE LOWOVER KS (WHERE IS APPEARS TO BE TOO SLOW/DEEP...COMPARED TO THECONSENSUS). THE 12Z GFS APPEARS TO HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON THESHORT WAVE ENERGY ENTERING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE 12Z UKMET ISAGAIN FASTER AND FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE SURFACE LOW...WHILE THE12Z CMC IS SLOWER AND WEAKER. THE 12Z ECMWF IS A BIT SLOWER WITH THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY THATSPINS UP THE SURFACE LOW OVER NORTHERN MO AT THE END OF DAY2...AND THE RESULTANT SURFACE LOW IS WEAKER AND SLOWER THAN THE12Z GFS. THESE DIFFERENCES ARE NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO DROP THE 12ZECMWF FROM THE PREFERENCE...SO THE RECOMMENDATION REMAINS A BLENDOF THE 12Z ECWMF/GFS. ...SHORT WAVE ACTIVITY PATTERN OVER THE OH AND TN VALLEYS INTO THEEAST TUE/WED... PREFERENCE: 12Z GFS/12Z ECMWFCONFIDENCE: AVERAGE THE 12Z NAM APPEARS TO BE HAVING DIFFICULTIES WITH THE SHORT WAVEENERGY IN THE TN/OH VALLEYS DURING THE TUE/WED TIME FRAME...ANDTHIS COULD BE TIED TO THE DIFFICULTIES THE NAM IS EXPERIENCINGACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE 12Z GFS/12Z ECMWF ARE AT THECENTER OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS WITH THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY...WHILETHE 00Z UKMET IS TOO FAST WITH THE SHORT WAVE ENERGY MOVING INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WED NIGHT. http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=pmdhmd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1256 AM CST TUE DEC 22 2015 VALID 231200Z - 241200Z ...THERE IS AN ENH RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE MID-SOUTH AND TN VALLEY... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE ENH FROM PARTS OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION TO THE CNTRL GULF COAST... ...THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE SLGT FROM PARTS OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION TO THE CNTRL GULF COAST... ..SUMMARY THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL EXTEND FROM THE CENTRAL GULF COAST TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION ON WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS FORECAST FROM PORTIONS OF THE MID-SOUTH REGION TO THE TENNESSEE VALLEY...WHERE TORNADOES...SOME POSSIBLY SIGNIFICANT...ALONG WITH DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE. ..SYNOPSIS WITHIN A BELT OF BROADLY CYCLONIC MID-LEVEL FLOW COVERING MUCH OF THE WRN TWO-THIRDS OF THE CONUS...A SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS FORECAST TO QUICKLY PROGRESS FROM THE SRN GREAT PLAINS TO THE GREAT LAKES REGION. AS THIS OCCURS...A SFC CYCLONE WILL DEVELOP NEWD FROM THE CNTRL GREAT PLAINS TO LAKE SUPERIOR...WITH A STRONG LLJ IN THE WARM SECTOR ATTENDANT TO THE SFC CYCLONE. THIS WILL ENCOURAGE INLAND FLUXES OF GULF-MODIFIED MOISTURE...WITH A BROAD CORRIDOR OF 60S SFC DEWPOINTS BECOMING ESTABLISHED ACROSS THE SERN QUARTER OF THE CONUS EXTENDING AS FAR N AS THE OHIO VALLEY. THE WRN EXTENT OF THE RICHER MOISTURE WILL BE MARKED BY A BOUNDARY EXTENDING SWWD FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED SFC LOW TO S TX. ..CNTRL GULF COAST TO THE OHIO VALLEY AS THE BROAD WARM/MOIST SECTOR BECOMES ESTABLISHED FROM PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION TO THE CNTRL GULF COAST AND COINCIDES WITH AMPLE DEEP SHEAR...A LONG-DURATION/SPATIALLY EXTENSIVE SVR RISK WILL EXIST THROUGH THE D2/WED PERIOD. MULTIPLE CORRIDORS OF STRONG TO SVR TSTMS WILL BE LIKELY ACROSS THE WARM SECTOR...FOCUSED IN A VARIETY OF REGIMES. DCVA PRECEDING THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND RELATED DESTABILIZATION WILL ENHANCE TSTM ACTIVITY FROM PARTS OF THE MID-MS VALLEY TO PORTIONS OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY REGION...WHERE BUOYANCY WILL BE RELATIVELY MARGINAL. MEANWHILE...AMPLE LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE CHARACTERIZED BY LOWER/MIDDLE 70S SFC DEWPOINTS CURRENTLY RESIDES OFF THE GULF COAST. GIVEN ANTICIPATED NWD TRANSPORT OF THE RICH MOISTURE...AT LEAST ISOLATED SVR TSTMS WILL BE POSSIBLE SWD TO THE GULF COAST THROUGH THE PERIOD. THE OVERLAP OF STRONGER DEEP ASCENT PERIPHERAL TO THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH...AND MLCAPE OF 500-1250 J/KG AIDED BY SFC DEWPOINTS AROUND 63-66F...IS FORECAST TO EXIST FROM PARTS OF THE LOWER MS VALLEY TO THE TN VALLEY AND VICINITY DURING PEAK HEATING. WITH AT LEAST POCKETS OF INSOLATION SUPPORTING STEEPENING LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES ACROSS THIS AREA...AND AN INFLUX OF MODESTLY STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES...DIURNAL SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE MORE LIKELY IN THIS REGION. THIS WILL BE AIDED BY 50-60 KT OF DEEP SHEAR ORIENTED WITH AT LEAST SOME ORTHOGONAL COMPONENT TO THE SFC BOUNDARY. WITH 60-70 KT OF H7 FLOW ABOVE 45-55 KT OF H85 FLOW...LOW-LEVEL SHEAR WILL BE ADEQUATE FOR TORNADOES...SOME POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT. DMGG WIND GUSTS AND HAIL MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THIS ACTIVITY. SVR-TSTM POTENTIAL WILL BE MORE ISOLATED FARTHER S TOWARD THE GULF COAST AS DEEP ASCENT WILL BE MORE LACKING...THOUGH STRONGER INSTABILITY WILL BE AIDED BY RICHER LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IN PROXIMITY TO THE COAST. THE SVR TSTM POTENTIAL -- INCLUDING RISK FOR TORNADOES AND DMGG WINDS -- WILL SPREAD EWD/ENEWD ACROSS THE RISK AREAS THROUGH WED NIGHT. SVR TSTM POTENTIAL MAY LAST WELL INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS FROM THE TN VALLEY SWD...WHERE NOCTURNAL GAINS IN MLCINH WILL BE LIMITED BY THE RETURNING LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Whew, this will be a rocky one, you're going to have a ton of last minute shoppers and things like that out and about. The highest risk area is basically the most deadly area of the entire country for tornadoes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 NAM,still is sticking with this crazy and wild set up.Euro looks in between and the GFS looks the weaker out of the three.Euro during the early morning/afternoon has the strong LLJ 60+ KTS over La that quickly moves into the Valley by late afternoon,early evening.Plenty of 0-1(km) shear 35-40kts from the gulf into the great lakes.Shear at 0-6(km) is best in the middle and west parts of the valley 70+ kts and lesser towards the east but shouldn't matter it looks ample enough for severe if something fires up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Euro last night showed some of the best PW's yet from that model .Maybe a hair less to the west but 1.4"+ for the rest going west to east.Showalter shows good convection from south of Birmingham into the parts/all of the Mid Valley,slight lesser to the far west late/ afternoon,early evening then -2/-3 into the evening for the east.But this could change today.,anything can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 That would be a good light show towards Lawrenceburg.K index at 41 in the early evening on the 4k NAM,pretty ugly hodo as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1130 AM CST TUE DEC 22 2015 VALID 231200Z - 241200Z ...THERE IS AN ENH RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE LOWER MS VALLEY INTO THE TN VALLEY... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE CNTRL GULF COAST TO JUST SOUTH OF CHICAGO... ...THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE SLGT RISK FROM THE UPPER TX COAST TO SRN LOWER MI... ...SUMMARY... THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL EXTEND FROM THE CENTRAL GULF COAST TO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION ON WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS FORECAST FROM PORTIONS OF THE MID-SOUTH REGION TO THE TENNESSEE VALLEY...WHERE TORNADOES...SOME SIGNIFICANT...ALONG WITH DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE. ...DISCUSSION... STRONG HIGH-LEVEL FLOW IS FORECAST TO TRANSLATE ALONG A CORRIDOR FROM THE GREAT BASIN...INTO THE BASE OF CNTRL U.S. TROUGH OVER TX...THEN NEWD INTO THE GREAT LAKES EARLY IN THE PERIOD. FOCUSED 12HR MID-LEVEL HEIGHT FALLS WILL SHIFT FROM KS/OK INTO THE UPPER GREAT LAKES BY LATE AFTERNOON AS SFC CYCLONE SHIFTS FROM NERN KS INTO THE U.P. OF MI. IN RESPONSE TO THIS LARGE-SCALE ADJUSTMENT...STRONG WARM ADVECTION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LATE DAY1 INTO EARLY DAY2 CONVECTION ACROSS MUCH OF THE GULF STATES AND MID-SOUTH REGION. THIS EARLY PERIOD TSTM ACTIVITY WILL INHIBIT DESTABILIZATION WITHIN BROADER RECOVERY PORTIONS OF THE OH/ERN TN VALLEY. LATEST THINKING IS A PW SURGE WILL ADVANCE NWD ACROSS ERN TX/OK LATE DAY1 AHEAD OF SURGING COLD FRONT. THIS MOISTURE PLUME SHOULD SHIFT INTO THE LOWER/MID MS VALLEY BY MID DAY AND THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DESTABILIZATION IS EXPECTED ALONG WRN FRINGE OF AFOREMENTIONED WARM ADVECTION TSTM ACTIVITY. LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS STRONGEST BOUNDARY LAYER HEATING AND STEEPEST LOW-LEVEL LAPSE RATES WILL EVOLVE FROM CNTRL AR...NEWD INTO IL. IF SUFFICIENT LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE CAN RETURN INTO THIS CORRIDOR THEN A MORE CONCENTRATED AREA OF STRONG/SEVERE TSTMS CAN BE EXPECTED AHEAD OF COLD FRONT. AT THIS TIME IT APPEARS ROBUST UPDRAFTS WILL DEVELOP BY MID DAY ACROSS AR/NRN LA THEN TRACK NEWD INTO THE WRN TN VALLEY. VERY STRONG SHEAR ALONG SRN FRINGES OF MID-LEVEL HEIGHT FALL REGION APPEARS TO BE THE FAVORED CORRIDOR FOR POTENTIAL LONG-LIVED SUPERCELLS AND PERHAPS A FEW STRONG TORNADOES. IF SUFFICIENT BUOYANCY CAN DEVELOP FARTHER NORTH ACROSS IL/IND THEN A DAMAGING SQUALL LINE COULD EVOLVE WITH SEVERE WIND GUSTS. STRONG FORCING WILL BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF A LINEAR MCS ACROSS THE OH VALLEY AS 90KT 500MB SPEED MAX EJECTS INTO THIS REGION DURING THE EVENING HOURS. FOR THIS REASON HAVE EXPANDED SEVERE PROBS A BIT NORTH TO ACCOUNT FOR STRONG FORCING. ..DARROW.. 12/22/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Nashville disco THE 1ST EVENT WILL OCCUR TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS A COLDFRONT APPROACHES OUR AREA FROM THE WEST. THE MOST IMPRESSIVE FEATUREWITH THIS SYSTEM WILL BE THE LOW LEVEL WIND ENERGY AND SHEAR.HELICITY VALUES ARE GOING TO BE QUITE STRONG...AND LLJ-OMEGAINTERACTION IS EXPECTED WITHIN AN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE AIRMASS. THELIKELIHOOD FOR WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER IS ENHANCED AS ITSTANDS...AND MAY BE UPGRADED BY SPC INTO THE MODERATE RANGE BYTOMORROW MORNING. THE TIMEFRAME LOOKS TO BE BETWEEN 4PM ANDMIDNIGHT...BUT CANNOT RULE OUT A FEW STRONG STORMS AS EARLY AS THELATE MORNING HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MAIN ASSAULT. I WILL INCLUDESEVERE STORM WORDING IN THE ZONES AND GFE. THIS WILL INCLUDEDAMAGING WINDS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR TORNADIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THE 2ND EVENT WILL OCCUR ON FRIDAY AS A WARM FRONT LIFTS NORTHWARDACROSS THE AREA. CAPES AND SHOWALTER VALUES WILL ELEVATE BY FRIDAYAFTERNOON. LOTS OF ENERGY TO WORK WITH AS TEMPS FRIDAY MORNING TOTHE NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY WILL BE A GOOD 15 TO 20 DEGREES ABOVENORMAL. BY AFTERNOON...OMEGA FIELDS WILL ALIGN WITH WITH A 30-40 KTLLJ TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF STRONG THUNDERSTORMS. THE SEVERETHRESHOLD LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE HELD IN CHECK FOR NOW. W-E FRONTALCONFIGURATIONS GENERALLY BRING A LESSER THREAT OF SEVERE WEATHER.NEVERTHELESS...THE INSTABILITY WILL BE IN PLACE. THE 3RD EVENT WILL OCCUR SUN NT AND MONDAY. THOUGH WE ARE NOTCURRENTLY OUTLOOKED...THIS SYSTEM WILL NEED TO BE CLOSELY MONITOREDAS WELL. ITS ORIGINS WILL OCCUR OVER THE WESTERN TX AREA. A POWERFULWINTER SYSTEM COULD SPREAD MASSIVE HEADACHES ACROSS CENTRAL ANDSOUTHERN PLAINS AREA. THE ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL TRACK NORTHEASTTOWARD THE MIDWEST. A STRONG TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL REACH AND MOVEACROSS THE MID STATE SOMETIME ON MONDAY. WITH PRE-FRONTAL FORCINGLIKELY AND A VERY IMPRESSIVE WARM WEDGE IN PLACE...ANOTHER SEVERETHREAT COULD BE IN THE CARDS FOR SUNDAY NT AND MONDAY. WILL NEEDTO AWAIT SPC`S VIEW ON THIS IN FUTURE RUNS. ON TUESDAY...PACIFIC AIRMASS WILL BUILD IN. MAYBE...AND I MEANMAYBE...WE COULD COOL TO NEAR SEASONAL. HANG ON TO YOUR HATS ALL...COULD BE A ROUGH HOLIDAY RIDE AHEAD. http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=OHX&issuedby=OHX&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Memphis .DISCUSSION... ...THE POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM OUTBREAKACROSS THE ENTIRE MIDSOUTH CONTINUES TO INCREASE STRONG TORNADOESARE POSSIBLE... AN ABNORMAL WEATHER PATTERN IS IN PLACE ACROSS THEMIDSOUTH...FEATURING VERY UNSTABLE CONDITIONS AND WHAT LOOKS TO BEAN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF SHEAR TO BALANCE THE THERMODYNAMICS.TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE MIDDLE 60S TO LOW 70S ACROSS THEREGION...AROUND 25 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. DEW POINTS ARE IN THEUPPER 50S TO LOW 60S...BUT SOUTHERLY WIND WILL KEEP DEWPOINTSRISING AS GULF MOISTURE FLOODS THE MIDSOUTH. OVER THE NEXT 24HOURS OR SO A VERY BROAD TROUGH WILL SHIFT ACROSS THE PLAINS. LATETONIGHT INTO EARLY TOMORROW ITS AXIS SHOULD BE OVER CENTRALOKLAHOMA...WITH A NEGATIVELY TILTED SHORTWAVE APPROACHING THEMISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. ONE OF THE MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES INMODEL GUIDANCE OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS IS THE DEVELOPMENT OFDIURNAL THUNDERSTORMS ALONG AND WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVERTONIGHT. BOTH THE NAM AND GFS INDICATE IN EXCESS OF 1000 J/KG CAPEIN PLACE AS THE SHORTWAVE APPROACHES. A STRONG LLJ NEAR 100KT ISALREADY IN PLACE...STREAMING FROM THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF MEXICOACROSS THE MIDSOUTH. IF THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOP...THEY WOULD ALMOSTCERTAINLY QUICKLY STRENGTHEN TO SEVERE LIMITS. SIGNIFICANT HEIGHTFALLS...ON THE ORDER OF 4DM/12HR WILL BEGIN AROUND MIDNIGHT...WITHAS MUCH AS 8DM/12HR MY MIDDAY TOMORROW. THE STORM PREDICTIONCENTER HAS INCLUDED MOST OF THE MIDSOUTH WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPIRIVER IN AN ENHANCED OUTLOOK FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT. STILL FEEL LIKE THE MOST WIDESPREAD AND STRONGEST STORMS WILL BETOMORROW...WITH THE HIGHEST THREAT ALONG THE SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE40 CORRIDOR...BUT SEVERE WEATHER IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALL OF THEMIDSOUTH. THE STRONG LLJ WILL BRING A COASTAL AIRMASS ACROSS THEMIDSOUTH TOMORROW AFTERNOON. DEW POINTS WILL CERTAINLY BE IN THEMIDDLE 60S ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA...AND MAY CLIMB INTO THE UPPER60S IN NORTH MISSISSIPPI. RESULTING SURFACE BASED INSTABILITYCOULD EXCEED 1200J/KG. LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES ON THE ORDER OF 6CAND 30-40 DEGREES OF DIFFLUENCE ALOFT SHOULD HELP MAINTAINSUSTAINED HEALTHY UPDRAFTS. 0-3KT SRH WILL BE IN EXCESS OF300M^2/S^2 IN NORTH MISSISSIPPI TOMORROW AT MIDDAY...WEAKENINGONLY SLIGHTLY TO AROUND 250M^2/S^2 BY SUNSET. AS A RESULT A FEWSTRONG TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY IN NORTH MISSISSIPPI.IN ADDITION...DAMAGING WIND AND LARGE HAIL ARE THREATS AREA WIDETOMORROW. THE SEVERE THREAT SHOULD DIMINISH AFTER SUNSET. THURSDAY SHOULD BE MOSTLY DRY...ALTHOUGH A FEW SHOWERS MAY LINGERIN FAR EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE MIDSOUTH NEAR THE ALABAMA STATELINE AND TENNESSEE RIVER. WE WILL REMAIN IN AN ACTIVE PATTERNAFTER TOMORROW. FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...LONG RANGE MODELS INDICATETHE FRONT WILL BEGIN TO RETURN BACK NORTH AS A WARM FRONT ACROSSTHE FORECAST AREA ON CHRISTMAS DAY. THIS WILL RESULT IN THEDEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE MIDSOUTH THURSDAY NIGHT AND ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAY. ADDITIONAL STRONGTO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS MAY BE POSSIBLE ON CHRISTMAS DAY. LONGTERM MODELS BEGIN TO DIVERGE GREATLY WITH RUN TO RUN CONTINUITY ASAN UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES FROM THE PLAINS INTO THE MISSISSIPPIVALLEY TOWARDS EARLY NEXT WEEK. THUS OVERALL CONFIDENCE INPRECIPITATION CHANCES MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED IN SUBSEQUENTFORECASTS FOR THIS WEEKEND AND ESPECIALLY EARLY NEXT WEEK. 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwagner88 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Very surprised at the lack of information from MRX about this event. I realize we are on the edge of the severe threat, but I also imagine that the whole CWA needs to be in a flood watch. They have no products out at all right now, just a mention of possible thunderstorms tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Stough Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I am beginning to question this event. It is only the NAM 4KM that is showing no GOM convection. Other models including the HRRR, NAM, and RAP are showing somekind of GOM convection. If that occurs the Enhanced Risk will be gone tomorrow and it will bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 AREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN226 AM CST WED DEC 23 2015 .DISCUSSION... ...SEVERE STORMS WITH TORNADOES POSSIBLE IN THE MID STATE THISAFTERNOON AND EVENING... ...SREF HAS SIGNIFICANT TORNADO PARAMETER AT 5 FOR MID STATE THISAFTERNOON AND EVENING... ...THE LAST TIME A TORNADO OCCURRED IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER INTENNESSEE WAS BACK IN 2000 IN LINCOLN COUNTY...AND BEFORE THAT IN1988 IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY...DECEMBER TORNADOES ARE SOMEWHATRARE... FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES WILL CONCENTRATE ON TODAY AND TONIGHT.MADE ONLY MINOR TWEAKS TO THE EXTENDED. LONG WAVE TROUGH ACROSSCENTRAL U.S. WILL AMPLIFY AS STRONG HEIGHT FALL CENTER IN EXCESSOF 90 METERS PUSHES ACROSS NORTH TEXAS DURING THE DAY. UPPERTROUGH WILL TAKE ON NEGATIVE TILT AS IT WORKS INTO OUR AREA THISAFTERNOON AND EVENING AS EMBEDDED SHORT WAVE SWINGS THIS WAY.STRONG MOISTURE TRANSPORT WILL GET UNDERWAY DURING THE DAY FROMGULF REGION DRIVING PRECIPITABLE WATER WELL ABOVE CLIIMATOLOGY FORTHIS TIME OF THE YEAR. 60 DEGREE DEWPOINTS ALREADY IN PLACE WITHCURRENT TEMPS IN THE LOW 60`S. 986 MBAR SURFACE LOW CENTERCURRENTLY OVER WESTERN PANHANDLE OF OKLAHOMA...WARM FRONT DRAPEDFROM LOW CENTER ACROSS NORTHERN MISSOURI...SOUTHERN ILLINOIS THENUP INTO SOUTHERN INDIANA AND NORTHERN OHIO. MID STATE WILL BE INWARM SECTOR FOR THIS SEVERE WEATHER EVENT WITH MUCAPES ON THEORDER OF 500 TO 750 JOULES PER KILOGRAM AT 00Z TODAY. LIFTEDINDICES GO TO -4 THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING AS 850 MBAR JET CLIMBS TO50-70 KNOTS AT 00Z. AS IF THIS IS NOT ENOUGH THE 700 MBAR TO 500MBAR LAPSE RATES OFF 00Z OHX SOUNDING AT 7.7 DEGS CELSIUS PERKILOMETER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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