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So the way it looks is the entire tristate area looks to be getting wacked today with some powerful storms correct?

It looks like the storms should be widespread. The map only indicates precipitation totals and is suggesting that over a 1 hour period the storms could produce copious amounts of rain. The strength of the storms themselves is to be decided on a much more mesoscale level--although the organization on the model itself likely suggests the storms are bordering on strong/severe levels. That being said I think there is still the potential for this to become a "glob of death" without much individual severe storm organization.

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So the way it looks is the entire tristate area looks to be getting wacked today with some powerful storms correct?

SPC says so. But basically every other model has NYC getting some rain, but the heaviest storms and highest rain amounts to our south by DC and Southern Jersey.

Looking at radar though, I can see how SPC and also earthlight will be correct though.

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SPC says so. But basically every other model has NYC getting some rain, but the heaviest storms and highest rain amounts to our south by DC and Southern Jersey.

Looking at radar though, I can see how SPC and also earthlight will be correct though.

Should be noted that I'm not forecasting a widespread severe weather event--simply pointing out that such an event is definitely possible given the conditions at hand. SPC details the potential as well

...SRN NEW ENGLAND ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC STATES INTO THE TN

VALLEY...

WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A WELL-DEFINED SHORT WAVE TROUGH FROM THE

MID OHIO VALLEY SWWD INTO THE MID-SOUTH...WITH AN EXTENSIVE BAND OF

CLOUDS AND EMBEDDED CONVECTION IN ADVANCE OF THE TROUGH. CLOUD

COVER THINS ALONG/EAST OF THE LEADING EDGE OF THE BAND FROM SRN NEW

ENGLAND ACROSS THE DELMARVA ACROSS THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AND TN

WHERE STRONGER DIABATIC HEATING AND DESTABILIZATION ARE OCCURRING.

IMMEDIATELY SOUTH/EAST OF THE UPPER TROUGH...A BAND OF STRONGER

WSWLY MID LEVEL WINDS IS PRESENT FROM THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS

ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC STATES...AND RESULTANT EFFECTIVE VERTICAL

SHEAR OF 30-45 KT WILL ENHANCE STORM ORGANIZATION THIS AFTERNOON AND

EVENING. MULTIPLE CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO

GRADUALLY INTENSIFY THIS AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY ALONG/AHEAD OF THE

LEADING EDGE OF THE CURRENT CLOUDS/CONVECTION...WITH STRONGER STORMS

CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND HAIL.

..WEISS/BOTHWELL.. 07/08/2011

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Big watch just issued

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WWUS30 KWNS 081750

SAW0

SPC AWW 081750

WW 610 SEVERE TSTM CT DC DE MD NJ NY PA VA CW 081755Z - 090100Z

AXIS..85 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF LINE..

40NNE POU/POUGHKEEPSIE NY/ - 35SSE DCA/WASHINGTON DC/

..AVIATION COORDS.. 75NM E/W /36SSE ALB - 31SSE DCA/

HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..1.5 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..55 KNOTS.

MAX TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 23025.

LAT...LON 42157191 38367520 38367834 42157523

THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION TO THE WATCH AREA. FOR A

COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE WOUS64 KWNS

FOR WOU0.

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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 610

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

155 PM EDT FRI JUL 8 2011

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 610 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 PM EDT

FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

NJC001-003-005-007-009-011-013-015-017-019-021-023-025-027-029-

031-033-035-037-039-041-090100-

/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0610.110708T1755Z-110709T0100Z/

In affect for the entire region

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CT

. CONNECTICUT COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

FAIRFIELD HARTFORD LITCHFIELD

MIDDLESEX NEW HAVEN NEW LONDON

TOLLAND WINDHAM

NJ

. NEW JERSEY COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

ATLANTIC BERGEN BURLINGTON

CAMDEN CAPE MAY CUMBERLAND

ESSEX GLOUCESTER HUDSON

HUNTERDON MERCER MIDDLESEX

MONMOUTH MORRIS OCEAN

PASSAIC SALEM SOMERSET

SUSSEX UNION WARREN

NY

. NEW YORK COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

BRONX DELAWARE DUTCHESS

KINGS NASSAU NEW YORK

ORANGE PUTNAM QUEENS

RICHMOND ROCKLAND SUFFOLK

SULLIVAN ULSTER WESTCHESTER

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 610

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

155 PM EDT FRI JUL 8 2011

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

CONNECTICUT

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

DELAWARE

MARYLAND

NEW JERSEY

SOUTHEAST NEW YORK

EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA

NORTHERN AND CENTRAL VIRGINIA

COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 155 PM UNTIL 900

PM EDT.

HAIL TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 65

MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 85

STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 40 MILES NORTH

NORTHEAST OF POUGHKEEPSIE NEW YORK TO 35 MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF

WASHINGTON DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE

WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU0).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE

FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH

AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR

THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS

AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY

DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

DISCUSSION...CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE

DEVELOPING AND INTENSIFY THIS AFTERNOON IN ADVANCE OF A SHORT WAVE

TROUGH MOVING EWD TOWARD THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. AIR MASS IS VERY

MOIST WITH SURFACE DEW POINTS IN THE LOW 70S...AND DIABATIC HEATING

HAS RESULTED IN DESTABILIZATION WITH MLCAPE OF 1500 J/KG. SWLY MID

LEVEL WINDS OF 30-40 KT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO SUFFICIENT VERTICAL

SHEAR TO ENHANCE THREAT FOR SEVERE STORMS. LOCALIZED DAMAGING WIND

GUSTS AND HAIL WILL BE THE PRIMARY THREATS.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT

TO 1.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 55

KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM

MOTION VECTOR 23025.

...WEISS

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Looks pretty good.. there is definitely good shear, like SPC was saying. I was checking out wind speeds at different pressure levels.. winds are fairly light through 700 mb, but really ramp up at 500 mb.. hopefully, that will sustain the updrafts... also good 500 mb trof coming through with height falls and vorticity advection should make for some good forcing.. we definitely got the instability as well. I'm pretty jacked up

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The height falls do, in a way, correspond with cooling temperatures aloft, because, in theory the thicknesses have dropped but I wouldn't consider this a real case of cold air advection as there really isn't much taking place as you go up through the atmosphere. In fact, the temperature changes are quite subtle if you look at the NAM forecasted temperture profile, you'll note that, for the most part, temperatures stay fairly uniform... but whatever lowering in heights and temps are taking place, it's enough to make the difference as far as instability.. so it can be a very subtle thing and make a huge difference. You would also know if there was major cold air advection taking place by the wind field with respect to increasing height. Winds would back (go counterclockwise) with height. If you look at the wind profile below, there is ever so slight amount of warm advection taking place from the surface through 700 mb with winds veering from southeast to west, however, the parameter is also based on strength and since winds are so weak through these levels, the advection is basically negligible. temp.png

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not a problem.. anytime

That whole lecture was the most difficult in advanced atmospheric dynamics learning the QG omega equation and so on with countless hours of solving those equations with differential eqaution techniques.

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That whole lecture was the most difficult in advanced atmospheric dynamics learning the QG omega equation and so on with countless hours of solving those equations with differential eqaution techniques.

uggh.. yea.. brings back memories.. most of which I'd care to forget. The quote I became familiar with was "D for Diploma".. :thumbsup: anyhow, back on topic... wow, big storm just north of me with a warning.

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