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  1. Carvers Gap
    Ha, we were just in that exact spot!
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    Anyone know anything new about the Nolichuckey dam failure possibility (see WJHL)? They had listed failure as imminent late last night. I haven’t seen an update....
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    Even downstream, the bridges are gone - are there any bridges over the Nolichuckey which survived even downstream? I think one would have to go over Unaka Mountain to get to the next bridge from Erwin/Unicoi. People on the east bank are cut off from the rest of Tennessee in large part. Hopefully they can get a temporary bridge installed like the military uses. That is going to be a really pressing need almost right out of the gate. During winter when the mountains gets snow on them, they(folks living on the east side of the river) won't have a lot of options to go to North Carolina.
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    So, are there any bridges left over the Nolichucky in Unicoi or Lamar? I was looking to see if 26 could get re-routed through town. I think all of those bridges are gone. Unless the Jackson Love bridge is still standing(and not sure that it is), there are several communities that are cut off and will have to go to North Carolina for supplies?
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    And yes @fountainguy97(you broke the news here), the Unicoi sheriff is quoted in a WJHL article as saying the I-26 bridges are a total loss. That means both I-26 and I-40 into North Carolina are now likely closed. Whew.
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    For NE TN, SW VA, W NC....this is going to end up being a benchmark, historical event. There will be high water marks for this that will be found 100 years from now, and people will be amazed. For me, just hearing the high winds overhead will be a memory. I knew when I saw the radar go yellow, orange, and red over NE TN(northeast of I-26) this morning that trouble was brewing. As noted earlier, it was just too much. The original Roan Mountain floods from a few years ago were warm rains hitting deep snow on top of the mountains. It really was two events releasing water at the same time - rain and melting snow. This event was like three - the PRE, the water from NC, and the intense, tropical downpours this morning on the West slope of the Apps. Flood warnings were posted in the Foothills pretty quickly today. I was thinking that the actual event(Weds to Friday) looked like one of those atmospheric river events that hits out West.
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    You all got hammered, man.
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    I hate to hear that. I appreciate the update. That gives us a good idea of just how wide the effects of Helen have been. Has anyone heard from @Daniel Boone? I know we have some other posters in that area. TRI definitely had a lot of wind damage today in the form of downed trees.
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    Seeing reports of up to 100k people without power in NE TN and SW VA. @1234snow, you all have power?
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    Thanks for the update. So I-26 is not just flooded but indeed collapsed? Whoa. That means 40 and 26 are down for a bit. Glad u are ok. I know we have a couple of posters, including you, who were over their today. We knew something had happened at a ballad hospital and just thought maybe it was rain and ankle deep water due to initial photos. We were crazy shocked by the ensuing updates.
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    Roan Mountain is a TN watershed and WhiteTop in Damascus is Virginia. When Helene came through this morning it dropped a lot of rain right on the west slopes. Those rivers were already slammed and there was very little downsloping this morning. It was the straw that broke the camels back. Those 4-6” of rain here (on very dry ground) caused a lot of problems on their own before the NC waters got here. For example, we already had flooding in Kingsport on Wednesday and Thursday. When Helen came through today it set up shop NE of I-26z. With rivers already full in TN...the NC waters of the Watauga, Nolichucky, and French Broad were hitting greased skids. The Holston watershed is out of its banks due to the North Fork and South Forks originating in Virginia. These were loaded NC rivers hitting streams which already were flooding due to the PRE, and then they got hit again this morning with more rain. So, really three events (Weds/Thurs TN PRE rains, NC torrential rains, and TS rains in TN today) along with high winds hampering water rescues...created the tempest today.
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    Yeah, those sites have been great today.
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    I have no idea. They basically said the dam is working correctly. My guess is they opened the gates when they thought the dam was in trouble. I can only imagine how that information would have been received downstream in the form of lots of water! Interstate 40 is pretty beat up. Gonna take a while to fix that.
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    Looks like Damascus, Virginia, has had water rescues today as well. The dam at Waterville did not fail. There was some confusion between reporting parties in conjunction with a crap ton of water coming down the Pigeon River gorge. The river did wash out a good portion of I-40. However, Waterville opened the gates, and that might be where the confusion lies. It serves as a good reminder that there can be a lot of confusion when widespread weather events like this occur. Again, I doubt we have heard all of the stories which occurred today. I have worked both Hurricane Andrew and Hugo relief. Both of those hurricanes caused extensive damage. When communications and transportation are knocked out simultaneously, sometimes it takes a while to find out which communities have been hit hardest. Plus, a lot of stuff is happening at the same time.
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    Per MRX and there has been some confusion as two lanes of I-40 hav been washed out. There is no longer a risk of an imminent dam failure for Walters Dam on the Pigeon River. Major flooding continues, however. Continue to heed evacuation orders from local emergency management and law enforcement. Do not drive into flooded or closed roads.
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    National Weather Service Morristown TN 420 PM EDT Fri Sep 27 2024 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .SHORT TERM... (This evening through Saturday) Issued at 306 PM EDT Fri Sep 27 2024 Key Messages: 1. Rain is coming to an end but historic and catastrophic flooding continues across the region. 2. Winds will remain quite gusty into the evening hours but will be write around the advisory/warning cutoff. Discussion: The remnants of Helene are lifting northward away from the region at a fast clip this afternoon. We will continue to have some shower activity develop through the afternoon hours but it should be light to moderate rainfall. Depending on the location, any showers may further exacerbate ongoing flooding issues, of which there are many. The concern would be, given the circulation around the system, that banded precip would stream over the same area, like band of precip that is ongoing from Cocke county northward into Virginia. If something like that sets up any further east we could have additional flooding problems. Current plan is to continue the numerous flash flood warnings through later this afternoon and evening to accommodate ongoing water rescues, recovery, etc. Wind wise, we`ve dropped the tropical storm warnings in our NC counties this afternoon and replaced them with wind advisories that go through the overnight hours. Elsewhere, the low level wind field has switched to a southeasterly direction across the Appalachians and subsequently the higher terrain has finally ramped up in winds. In general, outside of the mountains, we`re not seeing winds that are techinically hitting warning criteria. But from an impacts perspective we`re certainly seeing downed trees and power outages and such, and it`s also been very close at several locations throughout the day. So, have decided to let the warning outside of the mountains ride until the original 8pm expiration time. For the mountains, indications are that the winds will continue to be near warning criteria at least for the Smoky Mountains and nearby areas so will carry that through 12z tomorrow morning. Can reevaluate that later this evening and see if changes need to be made.
  17. Carvers Gap
    Flooded. Erwin and Unicoi are a mess. If you have FB, check those pages above.
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    With Roan Mountain blocked, I-26 closed, and I-40 cut....many of the major road arteries between TN and NC have been cut or are blocked.
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    We are finally starting to get a little better scope of the damage done by Helene. It is vast, and widespread in portions of NE TN and SW VA. The downslope today was less than expected, and that meant more rain into rivers which were well past flood stage. The Euro and RGEM were pretty accurate that the rains would cross the spine of the Apps. If you have Facebook, Scannerfood is the page to follow along with Tri-Cities Weather and Alert Crew. Rescues in these communities are ongoing. Their photos are pretty incredible. Helene just didn't weaken as it traveled quickly overnight into the Southern Apps. Really from Damascus, VA, down to Harmons Den(TN/NC line on I-40), the damage has been widespread in mountain communities. I am not trying to leave out the North Carolina crew. They have a very informative thread in the SE forum. This is a historic event for both sides of the Apps.
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    Hearing a section of I-40 in the mountains has lost all of the lanes on one side - washed into the river.
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    Very surreal to see the images coming to of the communities in the foothills and mountains. Helene will be remembered a long time. For many, this story is still unfolding. Thanks to @tnweathernutfor those photos. @fountainguy97, how is your crew doing?
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    Pretty rough situation unfolding in Erwin. People(around 60) are trapped on a hospital roof. https://www.wcyb.com/news/local/patients-and-staff-stranded-on-roof-of-unicoi-county-hospital#
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    The situation in Erwin is ongoing with National Guard being called in...
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    Here is one thing I have learned about TS and hurricane damage. It takes 24-48hrs to find out who has been hit the worst. Why? They have no comms and can’t travel. I doubt we know the worst of this yet. Either someone flies over it or someone drives/walks out. Stone Age type of communication stuff.
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    I can’t even imagine. That is a mind boggling number. Thanks for letting us know.
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