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January 12-13 Severe and NWFS Event
Carvers Gap replied to fountainguy97's topic in Tennessee Valley
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
I hope you score BIG!- 923 replies
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January 12-13 Severe and NWFS Event
Carvers Gap replied to fountainguy97's topic in Tennessee Valley
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Never mind...,Fountain got it! Good work, man!- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
I am not opposed to a thread about the event tomorrow nigh into Sunday AM. We have enough posters in those higher elevation areas that it might be a good idea. Winter storm watches are up for those places as well which would justify it. I am also good with it being in this thread as well.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Oddly, I have never been in an ice storm. I have experience icing and terrible roads due to that...but not the “turn out the lights” stuff.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Same! But the 12z GEFS is an over-running set-up if I have ever seen one. It has a slow moving frontal boundary and bitterly cold air behind it. It would tap the GOM likely. That is the setup for winter weather in west TN. We(people in E TN) want the EPS/CMC to verify or the lights are gonna start flickering w/ each run! LOL. But rest easy for today, the GEFS scores at range have been awful.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Not surprising.....this is nice, nice set-up for the mountains for a change. I may take a drive up to the mountains this weekend!- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
More winter wx on tap for higher elevations and maybe light accumulations in the valley. In NE TN, I would think most accumulations would be EAST of I-81 as most NW flow events set up shop there. West of I-81 we may get a stray snow shower...unless banding develops which some modeling does have. If that occurs, just throw out what I just said! So MRX looks correct, 1-2" in JC and Bristol wouldn't be out of the question. Kingsport...maybe a dusting, but I hold out hope that we over perform. LOL. Sometimes it happens.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
IMHO, you can see the strat warming stuff starting to cause models to get jumpy. The 12z EPS and CMC are a pretty good pairing this winter, and seem steady. I think they will be correct, and they will likely adjust colder if legit. The 12z GEFS/GFS combo is a fairly big change in continuity - colder and further west w/ the trough. Though I doubt the GEFS is correct, that is just screaming for a west TN ice/snow storm.....couldn't draw it up any better. And that is why I think the strat stuff is causing issues.....big time cold heads into a pattern that didn't have it in the days prior in the LR. Usually that cold really wants to dump westward. Buckle up. This could be a wild 4-6 weeks once that first front rolls thought on the 23rd - hot, cold, hot, cold....base seasonal. I don't completely discount the GEFS as it often nails strat stuff, but it has also been woeful after d10 during this winter - woeful. That big dump of cold out west is often a sign that the PV is on the move...something to watch. If I was in middle and west TN, I would be licking my chops. This fits climatology and fits the pattern of this and the past two Nina winters.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Good write-up by Larry Cosgrove this morning on social media. Here is a brief excerpt. A rough end to the January Thaw? Storms and cold a big part of the national forecast. Many of you have gotten used to the rather benign nature of January so far. There is the (usual) talk of "winter cancel", and speculation that spring has already begun. This is, of course, rather unwise. Even with the alterations caused by global warming, winter is still here, lurking in Siberia and northern Canada. And when it returns full force to the lower 48 stats around January 20, my best advice is to be prepared.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Ensembles are decidedly colder overnight and this morning (just eyeballing it). The CFSv2 now has this 30 day timeframe from Jan25-Feb25. The PNA/EPO signal looks to be legit this time around. Precip is normal to above w/ this run. Remember w/ the last December cold shot that modeling lacked precip almost from when we initially saw the cold from afar. This is a bit different I think.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Fountain has been reeling this in for the foothills and mountain communities. MRX w/ an early post about the weekend snow for the higher elevations. Good look for the mountains. As for MBY, I am gonna take my 6% and relish every bit of it.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
LR 12z GEFS and GEPS both are very cold for this range. Hopefully they can hold on long enough to stay cold. If that trough pulls too far north, a ridge will build under it. The Weeklies had something like that...and the pattern eventually become variable overall. Anyway, that looks like our window.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
What is interesting about the storm on the 22nd, it is very similar to the one coming in this weekend. Cutter w/ modeling trying to develop a slp at the southern edge of the attached cold front. Again, this feature will most assuredly change by 18z.....but I am a big fan of slp forming in the GOM if a cold front slows or becomes stationary south of us. Something to watch as we get back to a better period for tracking.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
On this morning's ensembles, the changes which will either permanently or temporarily alter the current pattern begin right around 270h or just prior. As we get closer to that timeframe, we should begin to see those changes manifest in operational modeling. The details will change 25x before we get to that time, but the 12z GFS has a good example of what "could" occur as a storm forms along the boundary of incoming cold air. Word of caution for those new to this, there is an old tenet....if you see a low in the Lakes the thermal profiles here won't hold snow easily.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
From Robert at WxSouth on FBt: But all model guidance in the longer range has been gradually showing more and more of a big pattern change. It now looks like a complete reversal is coming to the overall Northern Hemisphere, the West will get to dry out and warm up, and the jet stream will be diving in the center and eastern part of the country by late January and lasting into early February. Long range large scale indices look to support the modeling on this pattern flip. So for now, we carry on and trudge through this warm rather boring and benign non-Winterlike pattern in the Southeast and MidAtlantic, with rain and thunderstorms every few days, followed by a brief cold snap and then repeating the process. But changes are in sight.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Nina winters are not good for the mountains(Apps to be specific). I think I actually wrote back in June that the mountains would be much below normal in terms of snowfall. The storm track during Ninas is just lousy for NE TN and mountain communities when the cold checks up at the Plateau as it has for three straight winters. It is good for the Plateau and points west. Even Knoxville can sometimes get some snow during Nina's. The reason for this is that many storms cut through the eastern valley or the spine of the Apps. Now, some Nina winters are really good, and this one isn't over yet. As for the long range, it still looks the same as it did yesterday - pattern change inbound around the 23rd. How long does that hold? TBD. I think a good window is upcoming. As for the weekend, this system was really a one-foot-in-one-foot-out from the word go. That means modeling had it heading to Chicago or an Apps runner(both on many runs), even a couple of runs yesterday had that. To steal a line from a MA poster, when the system looks complicated, the least complicated solution is usually right. In this case, it was a cutter to Chicago and a frontal passage here. And that is the danger of tracking systems from 7 days out...things do change. However, it is pretty amazing that modeling can track things at that range now. I can remember when 4-5 days was the max and 7 days was nearly random.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Hang in there, man! You all are in good hands at Duke for sure.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 12z Euro control has a huge storm just after 300. Foot plus totals for the eastern valley and lows in the single digits. Models are beginning to see the cold around the 22nd and 23rd.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
LOL. From @WxUSAFin the MA forum: GGEM has a 4 county wide blizzard and gfs has a January hurricane. Your move, euro!- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
But here is what is crazy, most modeling(back when we were closely watching the "winter storm that wasn't" for the weekend), modeling had it doing the boomerang back into the coast. So, that clockwise rotation of the WAR must be stout. So, stuff like that interests me regardless of actual storms. However, if we get a storm near the coast, it could get pulled northwest. Lots of speculation in this post....but anyway, the GFS.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
It has a crazy big western Atlantic ridge (WAR) which is reversing flow over the Atlantic. There is probably some feedback going on there w/ the WAR. That system probably isn't 100% tropical in nature, but that is very rare(not sure I have ever seen it) to see a slp advance westerly towards the Carolina coast for hundreds of miles.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Somebody go get the keys from the 12z GFS. It needs to catch a cab. It has what looks like a tropical storm barreling towards the North Carolina coast around 200hours. No kidding. It is worth a look. Cause we know that is going to verify.- 923 replies
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January 2023 Medium/Long Range Pattern Discussion Thread
Carvers Gap replied to Carvers Gap's topic in Tennessee Valley
Man, I had kind of put that system to bed re: the weekend. The 12z CMC has warning criteria snows for the mountains and advisory criteria for the Plateau. The valleys are out of if for right now. If the Euro goes w/ an inland runner on the tail end of the front(like the CMC), that might spark my interest. As for now, just passing interest as we are about two weeks from the good stuff and this weekend is the only game in town..- 923 replies
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