buckeye

Wasn't it 3 or 4 years ago when we had the 9 incher winter? I never thought I'd see another single digit snow season..... but....

yea 4.9 for the whole winter . As pessimistic as I am about the rest of this winter I still think we scratch ourselves to double digits....it'll be DAB's and car toppers, and probably crap that occurs in early spring....but I'm sure we'll still get there in an ugly way.

Futility records are all we got. Amazing that we haven't had a single trackable event that we were all able to discuss in here. Granted we still have Feb, but if we go through Feb without a trackable event I can honestly say I don't recall that ever happening in my years of posting on these boards. Possibly '11-'12 but even that probably had some early action.

JB: I am convinced that the MJO and EPO control the pattern when they are amplified, The warm phase rotation of the MJO spawned the positive EPO which destroys NAMER cold. In spite of an undercutting trough in the means, the third in the series of underachieving troughs overall passes off the east coast this weekend, and not only does it produce almost nothing, but its followed by a blow torch The latest MJO forecast has the modeling sniffing warm phases if it gets into those favors, the EPO will likely shift back positive If that happens then I will throw in the towel, Most have, I will just be the last

that's crazy....in a NORMAL winter, beginning of February, that right there would be blizzard for Indy. Today JB actually said if the MJO forecast verifies, (taking it out of the COD into the 4.5.6 tour schedule again), he was going to 'throw in the towel" on winter. Exact words. I never heard him say such a thing. Usually he goes down kicking and screaming and making things up to spin something, anything, out of nothing. Even the great meterological illusionist himself, can't save the weenies this winter. On this one he's right. MJO and EPO still look horrible. Our, (meaning I-70 crew), only hope is a perfectly timed sag in the boundary with a low moving up from the southern plains. Everything would have to be perfect...timing...strength of low, etc. Too strong and it goes to Chicago, too weak and it's a strung out rainer.

Agree. Even the torchy winters of past at least had the torching. This has been never-ending stretches of damp, gray, cold....just not cold enough for snow. Throw in the perpetual mirage of a 10day snowstorm on the models and it's more salt in the wound. I feel bad for the businesses who hope, if not count on, snow removal work. Just horrible all around. #nightmare-winter

It's funny but snow somewhere else, (like when some people chase), does nothing for my weenie fix. If it's not in my back yard I don't care, unless I'm on ski trip or something.

Ensembles wrt to snow in the long range are laughable. The euro ens has frequently shown us in the 6-12" digital swath in the 10 -15 day period since December. Even if they were only 10% correct I'd be sitting at more than 20" for the season. On the bright side the epo looks to go slightly negative after the 5th.... but that's about all I can see on the good side. The AO is strongly positive as far as the eye can see and the MJO looks to exit the COD into 4 or 5 according to the euro. Obviously you guys have a much better chance of being on the good side of a boundary then we do. All in all still looks like a garabage pattern with scattered teases here and there. Probably get a really cold pattern just in time for spring fever....so what else is new.

Does November not count? Snowfall counts so temps should too. If so, I'll be surprised if Feb out does Nov in cold relative to averages.

SSWE.... lol The last vestige of the desperate weenies

I'm just messing with you....but i would like to see you go off just once though.

...one of these days you're gonna snap. A diet of denial and sugar-coated turds, (ie halloween snow storms and blackened snow piles in parking lots), can only sustain you for so long.... It will be epic when it finally happens

Looking at that map, you guys now have an even more legit reason to call me the a**hole in Ohio

I thought of that too.... We are above average on temps for the last couple of months of garbage and we heard the argument that just because temps end up above normal that doesn't necessarily correlate to less snow. Well, we saw how that worked...it only works for the nw part of the sub. So I'm ready to roll the dice on a below normal month of temps and see how that works out snow-wise. Either that or bring on a torch, but that hasn't really happened either.

/\ that would be a nice look. Implies a storm track just underneath most of us with cold available. We'll see.

Gorgeous! Like a scene from a Hallmark movie!

Clearly Alek is a better forecaster than JB...at least at 10m JB owns 500mb

tip's post are literary masturbation....he seems to get off using 50 words, (each with 3 or more syllables), to say it's going to be cold tomorrow.

? I would think a strong southeast ridge would favor a strong cutter as the incoming trough would sharpen and deepen more ahead of it. Wouldn't less of a SER cause the storm to be more progressive?

As IWX mentioned the other day.... the euro continues to troll the MA and NE folks....

Agree

the pattern is definitely looking active but the massive turd in the punch bowl is the continued lack of cold air. Most storms are gonna be a mangled mess of slop on their wintry side. The only way to get a good shot of snow is to have a deep low like the one depicted...but a deep low also implies a much further nw track.

Always impressive

LC bought it too.... posting a special Tuesday evening column calling for massive disruptions in utility, agricultural, and transportation interests from Columbus to Pittsburgh. For 12 glorious hours my inner weenie was torqued up like a15 yr old boy on viagra at the playboy mansion. The crash was brutal.