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https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdhhs/MI_Safe_Start_-_Restricted_Activities_by_Category_700916_7.xlsx That is incorrect. There is a Work From Home mandate. Here you can see all the restrictions Michigan has.

How you can make this comment is staggering. Honestly it’s completely illegal what this woman is doing. Using emergency declarations when the legislature is not passing resolutions in order to control the activities of a population? Our corporate office is currently not allowed to be open due to her work from home mandate. We’re all taking precautions but to ban people from their office is wild. While the Southern states have gone too far in their complete openness during a pandemic, everyone should admit the same of Michigan with the powers this governor has wielded. IMO Ohio has handled this the best in the country from what I have heard

I can assure you that no Southern states will do this.

It's time to shut this down folks

It’s what draws me to this forum. I’ve lived in SC for the duration of this so it’s hard for me to relate to the fear seen in a lot of the posts. There’s caution here, but everyone is going about their lives, just with a mask

To say that you have to play "football, basketball, soccer, lacrosse, hockey, wrestling, field hockey, boxing and martial arts with opponents" with a mask on is absurd. You'd decrease the oxygen levels by limiting the CO2 that is exhaled during sports. That sounds as dangerous as breathing in COVID. Also depriving teenagers of extra curricular activities they've done for years invites a lot of opportunity for drug and alcohol abuse as well as affects college prospects for the better athletes. Again too often reason continues to stray away in this crisis.

Was reading the Detroit Free Press and see that good ole Gov. Whitmer is mandating masks for organized sports? I'm convinced this woman is insane lol. This is why I don't put much stock in what DC has done with the response to this pandemic, these governors can do whatever they want. Feel bad for all the Michiganders at this point, while being wide open sure has its downside, so does being incredibly restrictive. At some point I hope these Midwest states realize their plans are like painkillers, sure it'll help one thing, but it's going to have tons of side effects. Heck my one buddy who works at Ford R&D has been telling me that he plays golf 5 days a week and takes a vacation every two months just to get out of the state and be able to do regular things. It seems to be a common theme with friends and family in Michigan & Ohio, hardcore cabin fever over the restrictions

That’s a hell of a low north of Lake Superior. Fall looks to be rearing it’s head for you guys

Agreed.

I could absolutely kill for some Ohio weather in September. Currently 94 and muggy here at the house, yet I'm looking at the forecast and seeing 75/52 for Friday up there. My hoodies are going to be doing nothing other than collecting dust for a little while longer it looks like.

Damn mine was lower $85 at 1200 sq feet. I also have a nest so I turn it up when I’m gone during the day, and then back it down when I get home

There is no major economy in the world doing nearly as well as the United States at the moment. We have almost returned to pre-COVID manufacturing numbers in durable goods (things built to last 3 years minimum). The thing that truly is hurting the v-shaped recovery is the impact this is having on small businesses due to lockdowns. So while Wall Street companies do well and are able to manage costs, those with limited access to do different regions within this country are struggling mightily. Because of this it’s driving their prices down as big companies (such as mine) are able to demand lower costs since its slim pickings for some. What do I know though, I only have an MBA and manage $75 Million in spend a year

Whoa don’t be a d*ck. I’m just making a point how people are basically turning Wendy’s into a Sonic with their closed dining room

Well yeah being social is wayyy more important here than in Ohio or Michigan. Almost everyone goes out to eat/golf/boat/beach on Friday/Saturday here and in fact I’m at a Wendy’s right now and a bunch of people are eating with friends in the parking lot. Lol I know it sounds weird but for these folks giving up bars, boat launches and restaurants isn’t worth anything. They plain out don’t like staying at home in the South

Yes because as I've said before THEY REALLY DON'T CARE AS A SOCIETY. Dude lol it's not the governments, there's ample testing here. People just aren't really as phased by this as what you're seeing up North. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just telling you what's happening

It's not close to the same as here. Dollars wise it's basically a tie, $22 Billion, but this state is considerably less populated and poorer than Michigan. So a lot of these people cannot afford to go without, the tourism industry as a percentage is as big as the auto industry is in Michigan. Charleston is basically a city on the hill compared to most of the state, the peninsula and it's immediate suburbs are the equivalent of if Farmington Hills/Northville were an entire metro area. It's wild how expensive it is around the city. There are some rougher spots similar to Inkster a little bit from there and then where I live is a lot like Westland but once you get outside of that it gets very rural. I wouldn't say people don't believe it's real here, they just really don't care. I don't know why but I'm telling you the vast majority do not care. I don't decide societal rules here lol all I can do is wear a mask and spend more time on the beach

Believe what? We had extremely low numbers until the state opened up. Combine tourism with masks being the only mandate and it's a like 5000 j/kg for Coronavirus.

Hospitality not hospital. Tourism is a much larger part of the economy here. Also lets be honest if we closed things off to Midwesterners (feels weird saying that lol) things would've been much better COVID wise, but would have destroyed us economically. A lot of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey plates in Lowcountry spending their summer vacations and bringing the coronavirus with them

Please there are four testing places within my town alone. The bigger issue is the majority of people don’t care to actually get tested. Especially hospitality employees who don’t want to lose pay

Our cases have subsided quite considerably in recent days with mask wearing being incredibly high this last month. In fact we’re trending quite better than Michigan in recent weeks. Michigan is adding about 300 more new cases than here per day so it kind of adds to my point about the fatigue. South Carolinians are stubbornly conforming to the rules while Michiganders are ready to break free, and the numbers are showing this

This is the entire problem. Beaches and hiking are essential to clear your mind and relax. We went too far in our initial shutdowns and fatigued the Continental US into not giving a damn. Lol only places like the NE, Chicago, Detroit really care about this. I think it's most reflected in college football/racing where you have the Big 10 shut down and a fanless Indy 500, yet the SEC and NASCAR are both having fans in attendance

Most college is anymore. I mean there are obviously some majors that require to be there in person, but at Bowling Green I did all my exams, turned in all papers, quizzes and other assignments online. I did a 12-12-9 setup so I took 3 classes in the summer and then 4 classes each semester in person. Online classes helped considerably with my internships. Honestly with the exception of the classes that were heavier on math, I really didn't notice a discernible difference between online and regular. IMO high schools need to adopt this, it's absurd how low tech our 9-12 system is in this country. This isn't the 1970s for heavens sake. Truthfully this is the issue with colleges, you're telling kids it's safe for them to live in close quarters with people because they have an extremely small chance of dying, but when it comes to playing sports, attending parties or bars, it's too dangerous? That's an absurd argument and 18-30 year olds really don't care anymore to be honest.

I personally think it is for all instruction from 8th grade on up. They can easily do 5 hours of school, have practice/games and have time for online homework at night. Absolutely sucked juggling sports with school growing up because you spend so much time in school

Sure for much less money. My father is in a supply chain planning role for a small company (51, HS degree) and makes $33K less than I do. Because corporations have larger budgets, they can spare good money for things like supply chain, finance, project management, Human Resources

Lol this isn't even a question, you CANNOT get hired by corporations anymore for salaried positions without a degree. The only way you could possibly get into those roles is by spending years working your way up, and maybe getting an offer at 30-35 for a management position. I'll have 7 years of supply chain experience at 30, along with a degree. As long as my interview is solid, no way I get beat out by someone less educated