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Saw the much less than modeled rainfall totals for this past week. Maybe we get more tonight and tomorrow which was in the original consideration. Still a bit dissatisfying totals

Any TC rain hits? Any early season interior high terrain snow acc late in the month? Do we experience above normal rainfall for October?

I didnt start a thread... bit marginal for iso 5" by 12z Friday but certainly a general 1-3" event coming with uncertainty on best axis 5. Someone will probably get into an iso FF situation- water rescues etc but its not widespread enough for me to thread. Of continuing interest for me is additional rainfall Friday-Sunday morning per closed low connection to our south. If that happens... we could be blessed with another 0.1-1.5" N to S. across our subforum. It seems to me the front will hang up closer to us than now modeled.

Continuing review for a possible thread 6PM today for 22z/24-12z/26.Pprior posts by Bluewave have it right. 1-3 iso 5 possible. Getting complex. The closed low OH Valley will happen and looking like we get something addition from it 18z Sat-18z Sun. Thereafter, uncertainty greater but as noted previously, tropics get involved with the east coast trough-W Atcl ridge. At a minimum, I would not be fishing in the coastal waters next Tue-Wed. Even if the tropics peel east-shunted s, the large cool high settling into New England sets up the potential for an early season modest gale on the CW s of LI and e of NJ, assisted by the larger BL temp lapse rate. Offline most of the day. 0.24 here in this part of nw NJ last evening.

for now-no thread on the oncoming early Tuesday morning WPC D1-3 1-3" and SPC D1 and D3 marginal svr. Anything after Friday morning is in doubt. Think it best to happen in the 60 hr window 18z today-06z Fri.

Glad it worked out despite off by 4 miles on storms... and much thanks for the followup review (including dance)!

No thread attm--maybe something delayed now til late Tuesday???: need more ensemble support but still looking at widespread 1-3 rainfall totals Tuesday afternoon-next Sunday with iso 5+ POSSIBLE. Depends on evolution and track of developing UA low Ohio Valley middle and end of next week... ie stall the showery late Tuesday surface CFP just to our south Wed-Sunday with weak waves of low pressure. LONG Ways off but am not too alarmed by the recent dryness... happens and then a blast of rain. We do need that OH Valley Upper Level (5H for example) LOW to form and eject across NJ next Sunday as it finally weakens. Otherwise wait til October. All ensembles 1+. My greatest doubt is Fri-Sun...whether the tilt to the trough is more positive than what I thought yesterday, not permitting the Fri-Sun portion of the qpf into our area but shunting it further south across the Delmarva?? Yes, am aware that this OH Valley trough and eventual eastward progress might build the w ATLC ridge enough to permit a tropical threat late Sun-next Tuesday=this paragraph said with little confidence but awareness. For now... lets get some beneficial rain in here Tue-Thu. I haven't checked on the svr threat. Have a day.

No thread attm--maybe something late Monday???: need more ensemble support but looking at widespread 1-3 rainfall totals Tuesday afternoon-next Sunday with iso 5+ POSSIBLE. Depends on evolution and track of developing UA low Ohio Valley middle and end of next week... ie stall the showery late Tuesday surface CFP just to our south Wed-Sunday with weak waves of low pressure. LONG Ways off but am not too alarmed by the recent dryness... happens and then a blast of rain. We do need that OH Valley LOW to form and eject across NJ next Sunday as it finally weakens. Otherwise wait til October.

CoCoRaHs after 6A 9/17/25. Isolated near 2" Wall Township in Monmouth.

Wantage NJ this part. about 0.10. (NOT zero).

Around 3/4” now in parts of Monmouth County past 6 hours and spotty hourly amounts, Over 1/4”. Finally got going.

Lost confidence in any meaningful rain near NYS/NJ border and even elsewhere. Pattern has not induced my expectations this morning in NJ/LI. Could be zero up here in far nw NJ/se NYS unless something comes in off the ocean but right now, just not seeing it. Modeling seems too heavy on our northern fringe I80 northward but have my fingers crossed something gets going by early afternoon.

12z/16 RDPS - RGEM starts out much better than the NAM suite-RAP. So for me planning I80 north... some sort of cross between 12 HRRR/RGEM. Even SPC HREF from 00z/16 cycle sees too far s this morning and the max missed the 1" at Cape May as seen on the NJ CLIMAT web site.

Good morning again... 1002A check of tropical tidbits for the 12z/16 NAM 12 and 3K vs reality and the 12z HRRR. 12z/16 NAM suite looks terrible to start... too far south by many many miles. Difficult to believe the initialization of qpf is so bad. EMC needs to check this. In the meantime the 12z HRRR looks like a much better start. Not saying anything about the outcome tomorrow, no different than above but for today... yikes.

Of interest to me... the steadiest of all the modeling the past 5 days or so... the ECAI and its ECAIEPS. Rain is coming and underplayed I80 northward. I think NYC counts on 0.1-0.4" and up here in far nw NJ/ne PA/along the nYS border 0.05-0.30. WPC should have statistical comparisons of the ensembles and am surprised its so dry in its overnight forecast. Could be my interp is incorrect but while this wont be a great relief from the recent dryness, it will help, provided my interp is correct. Wont surprise me to see at least an inch in spots across theNJ/LI portion of our subforum. GEFS lagging and so we'll know tomorrow night and I guess that's what WPC tends to support.

Late yesterday (9/13/25) shower amounts via CoCoRaHs Click if in disbelief.

Thank you... may take as well as well as Bluewave. We've got so many classifications of things... we've lost simplicity of when to amp interest. Folks certainly cant keep up with all the changes... Farmers are interested for sure as this did seem to stunt corn in late summer. Otherwise, I view this summer as having been sort of dull... not much SVR and very limited tropical with heat dominating JJ first week of Aug.

Just catching up: comments... modeling other than the dry CMCE, has patches of light-=mdt showers Saturday and Sunday. How it turns out I cant be sure but its repeatedly in guidance that I rely upon including EPS, SPC HREF and now some experimental MPAS guidance. Middle of next week northern fringe UA low rainfall potential to our NYC subforum. Drought monitor: I think we need perspective on the dryness... I just cant get overly concerned. Drought monitor needs a map to show the "perspective" - how unusual component of ST drought. NYC reservoir system less than 2% below normal as of yesterday. Yes vegetation takes a beating but almost every summer fall this happens... and here we are. The fall rainfall component I think is in part dependent on tropical connection. Obviously none so far and yet we got a pretty good dose a few days ago...even Wednesday morning (see CoCoRaHs attached) had some minor impact on sea behavior. As long as it doesn't get windy and hot... I think we're ok. attached the cocorahs for Wednesday morning,

I agree with you but overall, the EC AI did not buy into the initial Sunday-Monday EC EPS closed low aloft scenario...admittedly as we mentioned... highly unusual pattern evolution. I am curious as to the multiple ensembles with sct showers Saturday (FOUS has LGA 90% RH at 60 hours 00z Sun) and it still looks like sct or widespread showers ahead of the seed moving short wave Sunday. Middle of next week might also have closed low feature in mid ATLC. For now will monitor what might transpire.

Yes... and it was my mistake not checking EC AI... it never had this EPS/CMCE solution. Drier GEFS was right. Now warmer pattern and I suspect smokey eventually next week from Canada.

I'll need to wait this out... one thing I didnt see was EC AI was almost nothing. It could be the EC suite (non AI) is too strong and too far southwest with the 5H vort plunging sdwd from south center Canada with the resultant sfc response too robust here. Would make this a period of waa showers Sunday afternoon and maybe cool frontal showers Monday. I do think its best to play temps conservatively and cooler in this pattern for another 10 days and wait this out a bit but I plan on showers Sunday afternoon and possibly right into Monday night. Patience... at least for me til a I reconsider later on. 12z WPC D4-6 guidance has boosted qpf a bit and I think that right... dont plunge into the unusual heavy solution till we have more confidence. Lets not say its a nice end to the weekend beginning of next week.

smooth it for now... its raining today and that was relatively dismissed-underestimated by media communicators. VERY unusual pattern for Sun-Mon so not a lock 1.5"+ but am pretty sure many of us will see more rain than that which occurs today.

So... I see very little mPing on the on going sprinkles to moderate showers occurring NJ/LI/NYC area... a little disappointing. I see .08 in 1 hr vicinity LGA in the last hr or two. Lets see how fast the clouds go away from the coasts... could be a day or two? How about the 16z Sunday-06z/Tuesday showery event... unusual pattern development but possible and ensembles agree, except the lightest GEFS which seems to be lagging. I'll side with the EPS/CMCE on this one and those who have plans late Sun or Mon ,may want to consider raincoats etc.

Thank you... one thing I didnt see but the data may be inconsequential? Are the new sensors reading slightly cooler when side by side with the replaced 20 year old sensors?

ASOS new temp sensors? I'm out of touch... LINK for info? Thanks, Walt