I'm hoping to be able to string together an outlook or at least some thoughts by the end of September or early October. While I did have some hope that despite a strong Nino, we could see a pretty decent winter, some of that hope is slipping away, but that is just super general thoughts right now. I think it comes down to the Arctic and how much support we can get via blocking but I am slightly leaning towards the direction of very little support in this regard, but maybe we'd had some room earlier in winter. This is very basic and super generic thought though. I am hoping to be able to ramp into things over the next month (so long the tropics stay quiet...or at least we don't see any major US threats).