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The new trends are for the track to be more west.....but not enough for we in Greene county. We must have been naughty this year. The Euro 6z map posted on the main thread is ax to the head worthy for us. Literally two counties east they would have a half foot. We southeast Dayton burber's....not so much. Merry Christmas to all in Kable's Mill. Living in Eagle Rise, just west of you.....you'll have more than me.

Look for a correction....shifting the snow shield 50 miles East by the next map this PM. Scrooge in full beast mode! Oh well.....we do hype- to- hell very well here in Ohio!

Yea....all of the Ohio/Indiana posters here miss his insight and rye humor. I stay away from the COVID thread(s).... just becomes too political and too easy to blow a gasket. His last post was back on April 16th.....and it was a classic COVID rant. Winter will not be the same without him here.

So if it's not cold here....where is the cold? SIBERIA baby!!!!! Now this is COLD!!!!! Minimum Temperature Last 24h - 12/11/2020 at 02:00 UTC No. Location Station ID Amount 1 Ojmjakon (Russia) 24688 -67.2°F 2 Nera (Russia) 24585 -63.4°F 3 Iema (Russia) 24477 -63.2°F 4 Verhojansk (Russia) 24266 -63.2°F 5 Agayakan (Russia) 24684 -62.5°F 6 Yurty (Russia) 24588 -61.6°F 7 Batagaj (Russia) 24263 -61.2°F 8 Delyankir (Russia) 24691 -61.1°F 9 Ekyuchchyu (Russia) 24361 -60.9°F 10 Bestyahskaya Zveroferma (Russia) 24449 -56.9°F 11 Strelka Chunya (Russia) 24802 -56.9°F 12 Hatyryk-Homo (Russia) 24643 -56.6°F 13 Habardino (Russia) 24525 -56.2°F 14 Berdigestyah (Russia) 24758 -55.8°F 15 Ust'- Moma (Russia) 24382 -55.7°F Script courtesy of Michael Holden of Relay Weather. Data courtesy of Ogimet

And how about a cherry on top with a possible polar vortex split with the main lobe taking up camp over Canada? nd the Euro at 50 MB shows a vortex split with primary to North America....

My hats off to you TV guys. I'm a long time, occasional participant in my home forum (OV/Great Lakes). When I want real analysis on long term model runs, you can't beat what you post. Sadly the guys in my forum seldom give analysis...but rather obs and complaints. Hey I complain too. We've all had a lot to complain about the last few winters. The Mid-Atlantic group does a decent job...but I go there more for the in-fighting and humor than meteorology. So keep up the great work. It is appreciated by me and many other out of region enthusiasts.

December 4th and the weenie's agitation grows rampant. The Midwest forum going to give Ji and the Mid Atlantic crew a run for their money this season.

The Euro snow map above is only for 24 hours. This thing spins,, as alluded to, for 3 days. Here's the ten day total. If this comes to pass....I will never bitch again about Western Ohio snow holes....(Since it won't I can keep my bitch license).

Just to put the Lucy football curse on we Ohioans....here's the noon snow output for the next 10 days from the Euro. The first event brings a southern storm into the new cold air early next week. The phased storm passes over Western Ohio....Indiana/Michigan jackpots. However the Euro shows a second piece of energy coming up from the southwest at the end of the ten days that it believes will favor parts of Ohio. At the least...it will give us a head start on our seasonal digital snow totals.....which is usually all we get.

Attention Buckeye and fellow oft' depressed snow weenies....please report to tropical tidbits/pivotal weather maps ASAP. Our season of hope/followed by heartbreak is knocking on the door for another season of melodrama.....

11/18/20

Euro says lake effect season starts early this season:

And as always the infinitely detailed, pinpoint, way out on a limb, Accuweather guess at winter....

Was frustrating watching the lines of storms pivot just north of us all afternoon and evening on Labor Day!

Severe Weather Statement Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Wilmington OH 529 PM EDT Sat Aug 1 2020 OHC113-135-012145- /O.CON.KILN.TO.W.0021.000000T0000Z-200801T2145Z/ Preble OH-Montgomery OH- 529 PM EDT Sat Aug 1 2020 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 545 PM EDT FOR EAST CENTRAL PREBLE AND WEST CENTRAL MONTGOMERY COUNTIES... At 528 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado was located near West Alexandria, moving northeast at 20 mph. HAZARD...Tornado. SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation. IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is likely. Locations impacted include... New Lebanon and Pyrmont. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a basement or an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris. To report severe weather, go to our website at weather.gov/iln and submit your report via social media, when you can do so safely. && LAT...LON 3969 8450 3971 8454 3983 8447 3972 8436 TIME...MOT...LOC 2128Z 230DEG 18KT 3972 8446 TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED HAIL...0.00IN $$ Campbell

Reminds me of what Indiana and Ohio went through with the remnants of Ike. Can't remember the year. So eerie. Mid afternoon...as the remnants passed we never had a drop of rain, but with peak sunshine the winds were awful for a couple of hours as the heating mixed down the very strong air currents. The wind was incredible. Everyone was outside witnessing the roar and trying to stand still. The shrieking was punctuated by the constant cracking of trees here in the Dayton area and limbs were flying like crazy. My next door neighbors lost 4 or 5 full grown pear trees. We have an in ground pool and the mess was incredible with all the debris. Never will forget it. Enjoy the phenomenon west of here!

The knife twist continues by mother nature. She says...."snow weenies take this pattern for May 9th....'cause you won't see it in January"

So now we have two...back to back storms....that if the same pattern would have happened in winter....we would be looking at back to back snowstorms in the northern Ohio valley. Instead....cold rain, wind and nothing resembling spring for some time to come. The weather gods sure hate the Ohio Valley. Mother nature is having a good laugh at we snow weenies!

I think sometimes this is just a good stopping point for we poor, cloistered, snow forsaken Southern Ohioans. But to make it fit....chance to see some snow in the air next week. Why do negative NAO's only happen in non-winter months.

Amazingly it all traveled WNW to ESE.....and we in Bellbrook received only a few drops of rain. What a cut-off. Keeping an eye on the storms in Illinois and Iowa. Reports of softball size hail there. That will do some serious damage. Also moving in the same trajectory as last night...but positioned further south.

It was pouring that's for sure. My wife started to shovel what little stuck to the driveway....and I said.....don't forget the snow shoveling rules. She said Huh? Never shovel snow after the 25th of February. The sun angle does the shoveling from hence forward.

Transitioned to all snow....and heavy right now in Bellbrook. Too bad its 35 degrees and with a late Feb sun angle....snow is slushing on the grass....and just wet roads. Still in this God forsaken winter....its all we have.

Don't look now...but the 18z model runs move the snow line much closer to the I-70 corridor. Is it a blip....probably....but worth keeping an eye on it. The Chicago posters....who were and still are under winter storm watches/warnings....are on suicide watch after the last model runs.

White flag here in Bellbrook. Could follow heavy rain moving up from Ciny. Snow quickly ended after a half inch. Looking like rain here now for the duration. What a crappy winter.

All snow here in Bellbrook now. Based on Wundermap....its rain two sneezes south of me. Interesting tweet from NWS-Wilmington. However doesn't specify where...... NWS Wilmington OH @NWSILN · 23m [4:55 PM] Although temps aren't expected to drop too much, the setting of the sun in an hour may allow for snow to more readily stick to roadways & other surfaces. There may be spots that receive quick accumulations of several inches in a 3-4 hour window from 6 PM to 10 PM or so.