After years and years of following the weather....I have seen this play out many times. Persistence...more times than not...rules the winter. Sure, there are exceptions..and maybe this will be the winter.But, if I had to wager right now....my bet is that January will be little different than what we have seen in December. For all the rejoicing about long range modeling, MJO cycles, SSW events, SOI and ENSO showing a cold, snowy pattern in January....the models are now beginning a retreat. The optimistic are shouting the delayed....but not denied credo. I have adopted a perverse acceptance of fate... and even getting a mild laugh at the Mid Atlantic weenies (home of the forum's most neurotic and pessimistic) as they begin their march towards the cliff. I hope I am wrong....but my bet is already placed.