powderfreak

Wouldn't that just be averaging all the daily stake depth readings...throw a stick in the ground in the same place each winter and see what happens? I always think of average depth as one small point on the Earth... it's hard to compare perfectly to other areas but it's real value comes with elapsed time.

I think every single person has said they prefer snow in December and wish the climo was for March bombs in December. But it's not. There is empirical data that March is a better snow month BUT that has no bearing on personal preferences. I'd rather it snow in November and I really enjoy November early season snows when it's supposed to be brown stick season. But I understand what we are up against climo wise.

I was thinking that too. Much rather watch the snow slowly disappear when it’s sunny and 45F by day and 15F at night and clear skies....than going to bed with a foot and waking up to 58/58 with 1” rain and a foggy lawn. Just a slow decrease of 1-2” a day maybe instead of just vaporized in 8 hours while you sleep.

It’s all about the sun then...when it’s dark it should be winter. When the daylight gets longer it’s time to install. Makes sense why you rush climo on both ends then.

Yeah reading through this there’s like two different discussions... what folks prefer and what climo actually is. I really don’t see a difference between what just happened and March snows, like you pointed out....someone gets a 20-incher in early March and then it’s gone roughly 10-12 days later. Seems about the same thing happening right now.

Yup...especially weak when you do it because someone posts progs of weather you don’t desire. I might as well start reporting ya’ll for trolling when you post maps only showing SNE getting snow and shafting NNE. I come here to enjoy myself, don’t need to see that stuff .

I’m all for free speech. It’d be like someone who doesn’t like cold and snow reporting a person for posting snow maps all the time. Everyone should have it together enough that they don’t throw an adult temper tantrum if a map depicting rain is tossed up. We don’t control the weather, it is what it is.

Lame. In the summer when most want nice low humidity weather we don’t report people who post maps of high dews. We shouldn’t try harder to make this an echo chamber of the weather we desire.

The desires definitely don’t line up with climo. He averages more stat padding snow than he does pre-Xmas snow. I get the association with the darkness and solar cycle though. Most would rather the seasons follow that more closely, vs a 2-month lag time. Coldest and snowiest on darkest day and hottest weather on the longest day would be ideal....too bad Ma Nature don’t care.

And he caught one . I mean he could just be excited about the heavy rain and convection chance. It’s no different than one of us posting a map showing snow.

lol, not sure where that narrative would come from? I think it’s been a fine start to the winter. November was an awesome month with plenty of winter events, arctic cold, ridiculous negative departures and 3 weeks of snow cover. We missed the big storm but the mountain got clobbered with 19” of upslope over 3 days right before this rain. Snow squall warning and ~1” in 10 minutes last night... no one pays attention to half the snow up here if one of three of us don’t post about it, especially if it isn’t a region wide system. I’m not sure why anyone thinks I’m suffering up here .

Snow squalls making the evening a bit more interesting.

One of the better squalls you'll see at this low elevation. Pretty solid. The snow squall warning seemed justified...you certainly wouldn't want to be driving in this.

It is absolutely ripping. This visibility is extremely low for this elevation.

Someone is getting a good squall. Jay Peak likely hitting it best tonight.

Always ready with the optimism there MPM after an incredibly snowy start to the season for ya lol.

This classic exchange had me cracking up. Congrats guys, well above normal snowfall to start the season is always a good thing. Only a dusting up here last night.

Had some light ZR this morning and the mountain even started as a period of wet snow around 7am.... but now just dry and mild in the mid/upper 30s. Very little precip so far. Barely measurable.

Looking towards you today from Stowe.... there was something crystal clear about the air today that made the Presidential Range look like the Rockies. It was almost like a perpetual orange glow on the horizon all afternoon too. Guess we are getting to under 2 weeks to the lowest sun angle of the year. A good time of year for cool long range vistas with clear skies and low angle light....also inversions that can play with our eyes when viewing distant mtn ranges.

We were overcast and even had some flurries float down, but must've been just enough clearing to the SW over the southern Champlain Valley for the sun to sneak some rays under the OVC deck and above the Spine. Very narrow window there, ha.

Man what a sunset. Out walking with the dog but Elmore Mountain and the entire Worcester Range just went bright pink....upper elevations plastered white going pink with alpenglow is one of the best scenes in the mountains.

Only -3F here last night. Thought we might’ve gotten lower.

Not a bad look for the FV3 at this time range for you guys....

The hometown ALB with the biggest positive departure to date on the entire East Coast. Crazy that they are at 26.8" so far with a 5.5" average to date. Not far from half their annual snowfall prior to December 7th. That's why I always say it's hard to forecast a ratter for areas that average 60" or less in any year....one good storm can take those areas out of ratter territory percentage wise pretty quickly.

Looks like the snow machine has finally shut down. Only a few flurries falling when I left the mountain a little while ago. I was up at the shop when the groomers headed out around 5pm and it was dumping cotton candy... what a wintry few days. Last 24 hours with two clearings yielded 8" of new snow (5" last night and 3" today). The beta-testing snow board did pretty decent but even the slightest breeze does skim snow off it. We need to put plywood around the fence to keep the wind out and this thing may work ok. You can tell by the snow though that this was just a fluff bomb.