powderfreak

Holy crap. I thought you were posting a historical storm total... like some hand drawn snowstorm from 1898. Not the entire seasonal total.

When Phin was talking Montgomery, I saw there's a roughly 30-acre weenie parcel that straddles the Montgomery/Richford town line and on Topo maps it almost looks like you could ski off the backside of Jay Peak all the way to the property if you had some decent backcountry skills. This spot would get absolutely destroyed for snow. It's not far enough west by any measure to get easterly flow downslope, if anything you're probably just upsloping from all wind directions due to the terrain in the area....there isn't enough room for large scale sinking air from any direction. Backside of every low pressure system you'd just get crushed as the winds turn NNW... even rainers would end pretty snowy. I've got a couple FB friends who live up in Montgomery (Jay skiers) and when they post shots outside their houses it is a completely different animal than down here. Like getting 1" of rain then 4" of paste on the side of the trees when the cold front comes through. That spot would be an extreme snow spot and seeing as most nor'easters end with cyclonic flow, the Richford Trained Spotter is almost always at the top of the Vermont snowfall list. You'd see a lot of storms where you are top of the list in that spot. That might be one of the snowiest plots for land on sale right now in the State. Every time in the winter the models have that light green 0.01" QPF blob sitting over you it's snowing. ...FRANKLIN COUNTY... 1 NW RICHFORD 38.4 939 AM 3/16 TRAINED SPOTTER GEORGIA CENTER 35.5 1154 PM 3/15 PUBLIC BAKERSFIELD 34.0 900 PM 3/15 PUBLIC FAIRFAX 30.0 103 PM 3/15 PUBLIC

If I were buying in SVT and had choices.... I want to be on that high elevation plateau without a doubt... above 1,500ft. There's so much high terrain in that area that if you are picking a spot primarily for snow, you can't be under 1,500ft.

We jealous of your warmth the next couple days.

35F and rain, it can happen in any month, ha!

No sun here, a couple showers this afternoon. Mountain looked misty all day. Could really go for some sun...

Could probably see that on satellite image if he lit all that up.... Impressive stacks though.

I love Montreal.... we go a couple times a year and also take almost our flights out of there. 30% cheaper and 2hrs from where I am... you could easily do day trips from Montgomery. Its fun to take a little drive and all the sudden everything is in French and it definitely has a cool vibe in Montreal.

Probably one of the snowiest spots in Vermont depending on elevation. I’ve heard Westfield is a tad snowier (next Town east) but Montgomery is game on. Westfield CoCoRAHS had 125” of snow this year with a max depth of 30.5” and that’s a pretty bad winter. Last winter they did 181.2”. They get a ton of precipitation from the mtns around Jay Peak.

Still no sun, mountains are socked in. Another day walking along the river with the dog. Maybe throw some rocks? Lol. Gonna be a while till it’s swim season, our sunning rock still has snow on it. Flat and titled towards the summer sun, great to chill on with an IPA.

Hit the nail on the head. Im just seeing this thread but that pretty much sums it up IMO. Up here for 30+ acres I’d go somewhere in that graphic that mreaves put up. Just east of the Spine into the Northeast Kingdom gets a lot of snow, with many of the CoCoRAHS spots where people live recording some pretty enviable snow/depth combos. Maine has that far out feel though and better retention for the most part with more QPF heavy snow when it falls. I’m biased but in terms of true skiing conditions, Sunday River has great snowmaking but I do believe the northern Greens have better overall surface conditions and more “powder days” per season due to the snow squall aspect....the random 8-10” fluffers and even daily 2-3” really go a long way into conditions. Especially behind rainers and cutters, the slopes can refresh themselves naturally pretty quick with a variety of ways on any westerly flow...from Lake Ontario or just cyclonic upslope, etc. Get a big rainer followed by a freeze, a 4-6” refresher at Bolton/Stowe/Smuggs/Jay goes a long way in helping the conditions the day after...even if it’s fluffy snow, groom it and it definitely takes the edge off. I know JSpin is big on that aspect but it does make a difference in daily surface conditions. Now we also miss the Sugarloaf two footers from a coastal storm but day in and day out for skiing conditions, it does seem to help to get more frequent snows....like a natural snowmaking system. That effect seems to decrease considerably south of I-89 and really drops off south of Sugarbush.

Ha, I'm refreshing the loop saying the same thing. Need it. Want it. Looks like some Soviet era movie set here with gray skies, nothing growing at all, brown lawn, sticks and a few rotting snowbanks. Maybe I'll take a walk to the local nuclear reactor.

Need some damn sun. So dark the past few days. Looks like NE VT has started to clear out but still socked in here. Hopefully we can all clear out to at least partly sunny this afternoon.

You ever notice if wind direction matters? I don’t know enough about automated rain gauges. Interesting project though to figure out.

You got a stratus to check against?

Love me some Canadian porn. Oh what an upslope event, lol.

We lucked out today... high of 52F and only a few passing showers. I guess that counts as "lucking out" given the weather in some other areas. I was at least able to get out for an 8-mile walk to pass the time without getting wet. Big orographic differences in precip with this one from east slope to west slope... only about 0.35" here but the other side of Smugglers Notch had 0.93" on the west slope with that low level NW flow under the NE mid-level flow, which usually leads to extremely blocked flow as winds aloft don't let the precip break over the crest.

I read far too deep into that post then. Anyway, lets hope we don't have 3-days of 36F crap where most live, with snows above 1,500-2,000ft in NNE. Tis the season though.

Yeah the maps that use 925mb and above temps for snow work well in winter, but not in April when the lowest 1,500-2,000ft gets torched pretty easily. In that verbatim solution it's likely 1,000ft+ for snows in the Greens/Whites. Funny how the snow maps evolve with time of year too. They are the same maps as January, but with very different environmental factors. P-Type algorthim's lol. SFC temps never get below 34-35F.

One can dream if it won’t be 70F. Looks like plenty of snow maps for winter 19-20.

Ha autocorrect issue in my post. It was the Cabot station. I saw 4” and was like wtf, then looked up the coordinates and it comes back to 2,000ft on a side road off RT 2. Similar elevation to that App Gap VTrans Cam by Mad River Glen. Its on that western side of the Orange to Sheffield Heights...real weenie spot that does decent westerly flow upslope on that secondary ridge out in NEK.

CoCoRAHS a couple towns around got 4" last night... looked at it and man what a weenie spot at 2,010ft.

Snowy evening in the high country. Not high enough here at 750ft on the valley bottom. Mangled flakes and rain at 36-37F. Looks like winter up high though.

From what I can see in this area that looks similar to here... like a 1300-1600ft zone to all snow depending on intensity. Snow mixing down to 1,000ft or a bit under?

First time all season it seems the radar has precipitation moving east to west like an actual coastal storm. Some bright banding around BTV from flakes just off the deck, but overall the radar picture is a nor'easter style that we haven't seen in a while.