powderfreak

Yeah they’ve mentioned that before, ha. Picnic Tables get mentioned once in a while. They talk snowmaking and skiing sometimes in those. They know their audience, the outdoor rec crew slamming refresh on the AFDs. Helps that a bunch of them live in the Upslope zone too, you naturally talk about what affects you too.

They lurk and we had one regular poster (Mike M. who authored the Froude Number study) but has since relocated to a NWS office in the mid-Atlantic.

Yeah it’s definitely something to track. Plenty of juice on these runs. Going to be timing as that wave rides the frontal boundary.

ICON going big too. Widespread 1-3” QPF event.

Just destroyed this weekend. 12z GFS takes it to the house.

I think this pattern is showing how much the freezing level matters. I mean we knew it, that’s what NNE always talks about. Just get it cold enough to snow and stay. The highs have still been warm at the climo sites on average, but guess they feel cool compared to the lows. All that matters is the freezing mark for wet-bulb temps in the afternoon. If it doesn’t melt, it’s a win.

Maybe it’s the lack of one complete torch where you have windows open in January... but on the whole, this time period and first half of winter is going into the scrolls as a warm one. I get what you are saying though... there have been no t-shirt days.

Yeah, that's a warm pattern. 2012 or 2015 levels, the highs are noticeably above normal and the lows are just ridiculous.

Average high at BDL has been 40F. Normal 34F for +6 on highs since the New Year, it's odd it feels seasonably cold to you guys compared to the averages. 6 days so far in January have hit or exceeded 40 degrees? Maybe it's been dry with lower wet-bulbs?

Yeah definitely the overnight lows, but it's still an average high of 36F at 1,000ft in ORH. Normal is 31F. That's +5 on highs at 1,000ft.

It’s been warmer on average in those SNE sites for the first week and a half than the start to 2016. This winter is a sneaky torch... it’s been very mild on the daily.

Huh, seasonably cold!? Or just near freezing enough to keep frozen? ORH’s last below normal day was on December 19th. BDL on the 20th and BOS on the 21st. We are going on several weeks without a daily departure below normal. That’s incredibly warm. ORH... +6.4 BDL... +6.3 BOS... +4.2

I've always watched it since it became a powder mecca for skiing... top end bucket list spot. But I remember one weather enthusiast that wanted to actually record the snowfall, but after it snowed fluff straight down for 9 days straight on westerly flow of Siberian cold. Said he couldn't keep track of it, it all started blending together and overwhelmed his snowfall plot. I mean, Siberian cold air mass on the move and then riding across the Sea of Japan... running into landmass friction and then steep terrain. Those Hokkaido ski areas and towns get absolutely smoked.

For sure... but social media is the new world. They may lose money at times but overall they are stable... unless someone comes up with a markedly better platform, those current ones are here to stay.

FB has become way too negative and angst ridden in most people's feeds... compared to Instagram, which the feed is generally more positive/uplifting with sharing of photos/cool things. Twitter is still twitter and seems like a strong avenue for breaking news and things happening in real time. Users consciously or sub-consciously notice this stuff.

I still don't think that's all that much considering what's going on, they'll rebound a bit too. Those companies are here for the long haul, too big to fail size.

I’ll have to check that out later, love a great Japanese snowstorm. Those guys get possibly the most snow for reasonably inhabited areas. Like lake effect on crystal meth.

Yeah that’s a better day 5 look.

Hey it’s snowing! Ha.

Yes that’s true, the upper reaches probably would be whiter. But they’ve been above the clouds all week it seems, ha.

The circles. They park in the Bonanza Flat trailhead and snowmobile to their homes. When I was out in Park City last March I saw them sitting up there at like 8000-9000ft buried to the second story, and you can see their snowmobile roads. My buddy knew someone who lived there and for being some place out in the wilderness, it's like a 5 min snowmobile ride to your car and a 15 minute drive down into all the creature comforts of Park City.

Yeah I'd go mountains winter and beach summer. Living in a trailer and just pullin' it around from season to season. I personally love the ocean too, the vastness and the weather around that. Same thing with mountains. Ideally for me it would be out in Brighton Estates, Utah... 500" of snow a year and accessible only by snowmobile or snowcat during the winter months. There's such a cool community up there.

The true gradient in terms of snowfall chances is definitely along the higher terrain of SNE; reality for winter weather is likely a much more nuanced boundary line like you suggested. You are right there, we were just looking at it from different angles. It's always a good discussion when it includes climate zones.

It's true, but at least we try to have a weather climo discussion during the candlepin bowling pattern when in the dead zone between model runs.

Yeah I think we are talking on different scales. It's a gradient so for sure if compared to spots further east, it's less marine influence. But compared to like Springfield/CT Valley it's maritime. They'll see low clouds and east flow and higher RH in the means at ORH/TOL. More NEly flow. To me there's a bigger axis at play that includes the east slopes of the ORH/TOL zone as maritime.