powderfreak

2.25” so far at 1,500ft on the rock walls for whatever that’s worth lol. Still snowing surprisingly hard. Borderline +SN at times. Heated paver rage incoming.

I’d estimate a fairly steady half inch per hour here at Mansfield the past 2-3 hours. Been pretty consistent 1/2 mile visibility.

Yeah I saw the photos of the carpet lift up there. We have had that happen down here too. One was in a big summer thunderstorm with severe wind IIRC... the whole carpet enclosure was blown like 100 feet off the footings and track. Those things like to break loose in high winds. Funny as it even came up in Ops meeting prior to the wind event...have lift maintenance reinforce the two carpets so they don’t blow away again. Looked like the Jay one got taken for a ride.

Actually been snowing pretty good lately, a quick cosmetic inch at 1500ft.

Yeah I figured it would be like an individual up there interested in weather, like I do on Mansfield with a respect for the science. I find it hard to believe a COOP designation would be given to a marketing department lol. I thought it was a resident up there in their village area.

Yeah that’s close. A March 2011 type frontal wave.

Two day rainfall map.

Two-Day storm total rainfall. The stratus gage we have at 1,500ft fixed to the fence behind Mtn Ops had 1.78" in it. A lot more than the rain we got in town. I only had 1.03" at home, just barely overflowing the inner tube.

I know JSpin mentioned it but our best shot for some fresh white on the ground is the lake effect streamer that should develop. These like to align down the Winooski Valley gap in the mountains, and can give JSpin a quick 3” of snow in an hour lol.

I still like anomalous weather so from that stand point, that was really impressive. This was one of the highest-end thaws that we can have in this area. Tail end of the distribution curve. We were all warmer than Miami on Christmas morning.

Definitely would be impossible if the snow was good... the crowds during a pandemic with terrible snow are still more than impressive. It’s sucks for the skiers, but business is still higher than desired. The demand is just massive. So many complaints about crowding during a global pandemic. Lines a quarter mile long. If you can’t see the end of the lift line when it’s snowing, the obs is technically SN+. We need shitty weather to keep people away and not spread COVID, ha.

Getting snow on the ground is what matters. Don’t care what type it is. 3” is what we need to cover the grass and look out at white. It’s New England, set expectations at white, ha. I really miss the constant periods of snow... where you look outside and it’s always snowing, even flurries. The like 3-4 days of flakes flying and a white ground. That’s all we need for Norman Rockwell.

This was impressive. Just eviscerating up to 2”+ liquid equiv snowpack in spots. The duration of warmth and dews is top tier everywhere.

There's some COOP data for Jay Peak for a period in the 90s and 2000s, but it was stopped at some point. I haven't seen it graphed. But there are some fun Decembers in there. Love some of these observations during the good times. 38" in 24 hours with 67" on the ground for December 15, 2003. These are from 2,200ft I think, around the base area. Jay does get a lot of inches of snowfall, snow depth is another thing but inch for inch out of the sky, I think they take the top slot in New England on average.

And this summer too. Been a lot of heat records in NNE between the obscene summer heat and then this start to winter.

Nope not at all. They are completely removed from snowmaking. We have a live cam on one and then we also have a ground based board. Sugarbush has live cams on their snow board too. It's very easy to keep totally separate. Social media has kept the ski areas pretty damn honest in the past decade and most places now have some sort of public facing way to see accumulations. I always try to post the High Road snow totals and take photos of most of the snowfalls for social media. These places average 250-300" a year, that's how you get 6-10 foot natural snowpacks common place. My highest personally measuring almost every inch was 375" in 2017-18. The best part was the last storm in April was a surprise 13" of dense snow at the High Road snow plot to bring it to an even 375".

It does the ol' back in where it starts colder and then advects warmer air in aloft from the east.

lol, hard to believe.

A very 2011-12 type winter so far. Temps are almost identical to December 2011 in the mountains (this year might be a tad warmer). Snow depth on the cam is hard to read due to a foggy lens but seems to be around 5” down from 13” yesterday. So now under 2011 too.

That one storm will be a difference maker most of this season lol. Okemo with 51” so far this season... and 44 of them came in a 24 hour period, ha.

Yeah agreed but that’s a pretty bleak look right now. Head up into the mountains and it’s yikes. I feel like valley snow is well ahead of mountain totals relative to normal right now. Mansfield at 55” at 3,000ft and Jay Peak only 67”. Sugarbush at 39” up top. Smuggs at 44”. Those might be only be 50-60% of normal heading into the New Year with zero natural snowpack. It’s sneakily been one of the worst December snowfall totals I’ve seen but will check some numbers in coming days as we approach January 1st. Mansfield is running +5.5 for temps in December before this torch. It’ll go down as a 2011 type December (this will likely be warmer this year actually).

It's really hard to go 16 days of model fantasy in mid-winter and actually have a part of NNE where there is literally not even a tenth of snow printed over a two week period. And 1-6" max in most of the mountains during a 16-day period too.

Well if the Euro is right we do it again in a week. Going to be real impressive if we go a week or two in NNE mtns in heart of winter with bare ground. I don’t even see much snow shower chances. Then a warm heavy rainer again.

Wow, Tannersville, NY (near Hunter Mountain) came in with 5.70" on CoCoRAHS so far. They get incredible upslope though into the 4,000ft Catskill summits on south/east flow.

Yup, same over this way. Still some natural cover but it's patchy on the hill with the waterbars showing across trails now. Snowmaking takes a lot more energy than this to melt though.