powderfreak

Those are exactly it! See those all over apple orchards and corn mazes in New England.

That's the main thing. It will come. Just like in April/May, summer will come eventually. No need to rush it.

Lifetime Original movie set in NNE in October type vibe. Men in flannels, women in boots. How they print it in the brochure. Brochure says nothing about Torchtober.

If there’s one thing I’ve noticed, if it was a snow threat everyone is in on it… but it’s the gap between nice outdoor 60-75F and cold/snow that gets people. Even Will has said it for years… highs in the 40s and 50s are some of the least desirable weather on the planet (ie Maryland in winter). Anything to minimize that, be it snow chances lingering in spring followed by fast warm up… or mild autumn that flips to winter in November.

Thy days of creaming thy knickers over endless days of 43 degree rain in October doth gone.

Have seen a nice bump this month. By pure luck I didn’t have any holdings in the dip/sell off previously.

Minimum of 56F at MVL last night is around the average high temp for today. Windows open.

October 28 = Bad. November 1 = Good to go. 72 hours apart. Winter fans aren’t superstitious.

Leaves down. Just need a little snow to make the glades skiable, ha. Still no where near a frost or freeze on the hill... but guess sunlight matters more than temperatures for leaf drop.

That sounds like every Apple Store in the country. "Oh your appointment is for 3:15pm and it's 3:10pm? Let me check you in. It'll only be an hour or so wait sir."

3-6" of leaves? The only measurable we get until Thanksgiving?

Good grief man, so sorry. That's so sad. All animals are like family.

The gov't agencies were a pain in the a** on good days in the past... pre-COVID a DMV experience here was 1-2 hours (BTV), but if you drove up to Newport on the Canadian border you could do it in 15 minutes, ha. Afterwards I haven't even tried. They still mailed me my new license and our registration cards renewed online fine and arrived in the mail. I remember waiting in the Albany DMV to get my learners permit for over 2 hours decades ago. The employees are always nice but like anything that seems to be running at the break point there can be hassles.

I think college being remote last year absolutely lost that age group that would be at UVM, St Mike’s, Northern VT universities. Hopefully they come back. I was at UVM yesterday for a job fair and it was encouraging… students coming back and staying here this winter. Looking for ski pass and weekend work at “fun” jobs like ski instructors or lift ops. Older demographic and young are missing… like 22-45 ages seem normal. High school, college and retiree or older crowd with money having midlife crisis or just moving north. Like 50-60 years old, who moved north after making money elsewhere, gets bored hanging out with wife all the time, decides to come hang out with young people at a ski area. Surprising amount of those folks. I had a guy work for me who owned a seat on Wall Street floor. Just wanted to stay busy but didn’t need money.

That’s the great question. And if they aren’t in the unemployment statistics… just not working? I do think we saw mass retirements as well but that can’t explain it. Here working age individuals seem normal but we lost all the part-time help, retirees keeping busy, college kids, high school kids, people with money from previous careers that just want to hang out at a ski resort (we’ve had previous CEOs, car dealership owners, others who built a business and sold it, former stock brokers who move to the mtns in their 50s in mid-life crisis, etc). All those are gone.

Yes but those folks would be included in unemployment numbers. Why is/was unemployment so low in many states (especially ones relying more on service industry than others) if everyone just takes the free money? It makes total sense what you are saying and sure some did, but there has to be stats to back it up somewhere if it occurred that much. Yeah but you also lose unemployment benefits too.

How do you avoid being added to the unemployment rate but sit on the sidelines? Leave the work force entirely? I know a lot of people retired earlier than they had planned but hung up their coats and checked out. Truly curious if I’m missing something. This thread made me look at the numbers and the unemployment rate seems to follow the vaccine rollouts very closely, not stimulus payments. Honestly never noticed that before. The rates hit lowest points in the late winter/spring when vaccine became available to all people. That correlation between vaccine and unemployment would seem to support you’re idea they come back when felt safe to do so, vs milking stimulus payments. I want to stay out of political territory but like talking about the economy.

There’s been no difference in the service/tourism/hospitality industries between during extra unemployment money and afterwards… at least not yet. Unemployment rates returned to lower than 2012-2016 last winter…. Even though free money continued through September 1st. There has to be something more going on than just blaming gov’t stimulus money. All last winter the unemployment rate plummeted despite stimulus. If anything unemployment looks not tied to stimulus at all… it looks tied to vaccination availability and rates. Lowest unemployment rates hit when the vaccine became widely available last spring which is something I hadn’t noticed before. We are bottomed out again on unemployment rate all summer and still vastly understaffed in all facets of hospitality/tourism/service/restaurants, etc.

Yeah hasn’t broken there then. Its still been record warm relative to normal but not uncomfortable if that makes sense. I bin a lot of obs into A/C vs using heat. Summer weather is fans or A/C… winter weather is cranking heat 24/7. We have been stuck in between those two things for 6 weeks now . Averages keep going down but the temperature remains the same.

Yup for sure. Haven’t ran my AC since summer’s back broke on Sept 1st. Ran it more than ever before prior to that.

Departures this month so far: MVL is +7.8. MPV is +9.0. BTV is +6.7. In 14 days this month we have not hit the average minimum temperature once on any day. Average today is 58/36. We should pretty much be seeing frost nightly here this week if it's a "normal" routine. Yesterday was a +15 daily departure . It's rare but BTV has a lower departure because the minimums have been high. So the interior VT sites are just getting roasted while BTV is used to not cooling off at night.

64/62 with drizzle lol. Dews in the 60s are back.

No, they are likely getting more. 7-day a week operations but they have had to close some days due to short staffing levels. So maybe not. Closed Tuesdays due to lack of staff. 11am-9pm for 10-hour shifts.

$20/hr to make pizzas here. Resort town but these places need staff to operate. $20/hr for 40 hours is $800 a week…. That’s $41,000 a year job. With a signing bonus.

I agree. I know how I’d raise my kid these days… but it’s still probably hard to not want the world for them. I’m just saying that people now in days have been brainwashed for so long by so many people regarding jobs like that. Need more people like that “Dirty Jobs” guy advocating that it’s ok and pays well to do those jobs.