powderfreak

Runs into an out next play, ha. It’s the 2021 Red Sox.

It's the Orioles. Red Sox have made those mistakes in the past two months too though. Red Sox doing what they need to do against the Orioles. Renfroe with the bases clearing double, 7-1 now... best off season pick-up comes up with a big hit again.

Is this the real McCoy?! "The jerseys capture the color scheme of the Boston Marathon, which is held annually on Patriots’ Day in the city." Not sure why tonight.

Ahh you are starting to come around now to the Top 10 weather. Goalposts starting to shift and rightly so.

Doesn’t happen often for me. 40-45 is usually where I fall on 9. Gotta get out with our mutual friend Mr Maxwell.

Yeah that sounds about how I would get one, ha. This was the rare great ball strike that felt so good. Maybe next time, ha. Played even par through 7 holes (2 birdies, 2 bogeys) but ended up finishing the 9 holes at +3 due to finishing double bogey then bogey.

Almost pulled off a hole in one this evening. 140 yard 8-iron. The guys on the next tee box said it looked to lip out, slight change of direction passing the cup. Looked dead on like it was going in from the tee.

Not to nitpick Gene, but why do you need to take away any rain that runs off quickly? That’s all built into summer climo. You’ve (we’ve) always had short duration intense convective rains in the summer since the dawn of time. It counts just as much. No where in the annual precip of New England does it say short duration heavy rains need to be removed… the annual precipitation totals build plenty of that in. I’ve always found that reasoning odd but it’s not just you, it does come up around here in the forums a lot in summer… when folks are like I got X inches of rain this past month but most of it doesn’t really count because it fell quickly and ran off. I know its a reference to not feeling like the vegetation got watered, but the vegetation has been dealing with convective rains for centuries here.

Adirondacks… NE Kingdom of VT… Central VT…

First blue spec on the GFS at 180 hours out in NW ME.

Yeah I would definitely hedge against any bitter cold shots too, it is only September.

The lowering sun angle and earlier darkness is noticeable. Maybe that influenced my “corner turned” posts earlier. Shadows are now north facing and growing dark at times that used to feel mid-afternoon. These temperatures aren’t cool to normal, just very enjoyable T/Td without being cold. People lighting wood stoves is the next benchmark up here IMO.

73/48 in the valley… 61F up here. Chamber Weather.

69/53 under 100% sunshine. Upper 60s, breeze, dry air and cobalt blue sky. This feels closer to autumn than summer so it's easy to see how our opinions are different .

BDR is +1.4. 8 of 15 days have been below normal and 7 above normal. Looks like the past 4-5 days brought the month from below normal to above.

Yeah I think it affects the length of colorful fall foliage. But the end will come at a similar time each year. Maybe you drag color out for a month or they are stubborn and stay green then all go at once…. But there’s a point that is very consistent up here when trees finally say “we done” regardless of weather. It’s around the 2nd week of October.

Even up on the mountain, the wildflowers and grasses start going dormant and brown/golden in later August. Temperatures have very little affect there, it’s all sunlight. The ground cover starts to go to sleep even if it’s humid and 80F. That’s why the grooming team mows then. It’s over then for ground growth regardless of weather. I don’t know, I find the claims that stuff is really early or really late might mean a shorter or longer foliage season but in the end, the peak occurs within a similar 7-10 day time frame annually. You won’t see much more of a difference than that.

Yeah I find it can vary by a week or something, but peak has always been somewhere in like Oct 7-14. I don’t think we are behind right now up here to be honest… September hasn’t been that warm to date. The leaves change with the sunlight so like you said, it’s hard to drastically alter that. It’s not like some years peak is Sept 15 and others it’s Halloween. The range of variance is quite small to a week or two at absolute most.

We just torched so much in August that it feels real nice. +5 in August is tough to do, that was “summer.” I don’t know if I ran my A/C as much as I did in August this year. This month has been one big breath of fresh air. I think the trees are looking pretty decent all the sudden.

Yeah but I bet if your neighbor had 72/50 as the monthly average right now you'd think the switch flipped too. Doubt you'd be running the A/C. Shocker that up in N.VT a poster thinks it's more autumn than those in SE Mass () but I did think judging on the TAN numbers that there was a solid step down too. It's all a sliding scale, ha.

The more I think about it, I do think it's that threshold for when A/C runs more consistently and not at all. I think that's back broken. If you guys are running your A/C's at night and being all locked up with artificial air, yeah that seems like summer. I think we crossed that threshold and that's what's flipped a switch for me. We now close up most night's because it's too chilly outside.

Yeah there's likely some regional differences going on too. Up here... August was 81/59 for +4.8 September so far 72/50 for +0.8. I just have definitely noticed that almost 10 degree drop in the means between August and September. I'm not thinking it's felt like pumpkins but I'm not comparing it to fall... I'm just comparing the two months and what the feel has been. That 10 degree drop in the means has been the difference in just Top 10 COC days every single day and summer weather.

Well there's two things here: 1) The weather is beautiful. 70s/50s in the means like September has had is literally what the human race wants to live in, ha. Know you are trying to troll but I think most love the weather. 2) The temperatures you posted look like mid-summer up here, so definitely makes sense you are still in summer mode.

Yeah I guess we are comparing different things with back broken. There is no doubt it has been much different than August IMO. I was running my A/C consistently and it hasn’t been on once in September and I haven’t been swimming once either… that’s what I think of when back broken. Just because we carry +1.5 in October or November doesn’t mean its still summer. I’m not sure when the cut-off happens but most months are above normal these days. We’ve stepped down a good 5-10F from August on average it seems at most stations. Maybe 10-15F lower than August will break the back.

Why does it mean below normal? Broke back means it's not 90F every day anymore. You're daily averages so far this month are like 78/55 it looks like. Averages are tanking right now. +3 in August to +1 in September will still yield a fairly sizeable drop off in sensible weather. The TAN temperatures have averaged 5.6F colder for the maxes and 9.0F colder for the mins these last two weeks than they did in August. That seems like it would be noticeable?