powderfreak

Yeah looks like a more widespread freeze tonight. Temps already 34-39F over a wide area and dews at the ASOS stations were 28-32F this afternoon. If radiational conditions persist all night most spots will be in the 20s tomorrow morning. I saw BML and HIE had the lowest afternoon dew points so if it stays clear I’d assume they could do mid/upper 20s with ease? Locally already some calm 34s showing up west and east of Mansfield in Underhill and Stowe.

How far from Warrensburg? I grew up skiing at Gore and spent a lot of time in that area through high school as a budding snow weenie. If you are near 2,000ft, it’s plenty cold and snowy to have good snowpack on the ground all winter. CAD spot there in the upper Hudson River and eastern Adirondacks. It stays cold in those nooks.

Waves in Weymouth?

That was a monster winter. 375” at 3,000ft. The most snow at the High Road plot during my time here. It didn’t seem *as* great down in town but the hill just snowed and snowed. Like 100+” in 3 weeks all in pure champagne powder during late Jan to mid Feb I think.

5 years ago a foot fell on the hill.

Finalized morning lows. Coldest night for the BTV warning area by a long shot this fall… and only a few degrees below normal .

2010-2011 is my personal favorite winter since I’ve been up north. Upslope and synoptic. Most of the synoptic snows seemed to trend better and better as storms got closer. What would look like suppression depression would be a foot in the last 36 hours of runs. The N/W trend was real that winter. And there were some monster upslope storms of several feet.

That was JSpin’s top winter I believe too. It was big.

28F for MVL ASOS, was a surprising cold night it looks like. Forecast was mid-30s. Granted it’s only like 4F below normal min . No valley fog at all either.

Yeah last night was not modeled or forecast well. It got colder than expected by a good 5-7F in a lot of spots. First map is the forecast and second map is 6am temps (actual minimums likely a tick cooler):

Looks like the first widespread sub-freezing morning back home. Most of the home PWS seem to have hit the upper 20s overnight between Waterbury, Stowe and Montpelier area.

Lot of 27-29s around at home on the PWS network… looks like the first solid freeze is in the books. October 23, very very late. Mansfield down to 25F, windchills hit singles digits overnight. First legit cold shot it seems.

First freeze back home. Local Stowe CC PWS at 31/31 next door and MVL ASOS at 32/30. That took a long time to get first 32F.

lol recorded at the same location since 1894.

Ahhh no you don’t have to pick a date. Good any time. The Epic Day passes can be used anytime… which frankly is terrifying but it’s a good deal. Can get 4 days (any date non-holiday) to Vail Resort Mtns for $65 a day. $33 per kid ticket. 1-day is $69 and it drops per day from there. Don’t need to pick dates.

Was Christine from Delaware… that’s real question.

You think it’s much different at times here, lol? How many go north of Stowe? Or east over the range to Worecester? Morrisville? Lol. I think that can be said for most neighboring towns of tourist areas. Its not true but it is… plenty of upscale folks in those towns (I’d live there) but you also find other areas that you don’t see in the brochures.

Yeah there are a lot like it though. Even where you go near Winni I bet has tons of places to eat/go out, etc. Sugarbush area, Killington, Conway, Bethel Me, etc.

I always laugh when people insinuate being in NNE in the middle of no where. I know I can walk to a larger variety of restaurants, bars, breweries, stores, nightlife than almost anyone out there. My sister from NYC says there’s more close variety than even where she is… but her options explode past a certain walking time frame.

Word is certainly out. It’s a huge destination now, all of the areas. But with that comes economic possibilities and jobs. So many of of the villages are just insane looking for winter weather loving crowd. Even the ability to just spend a couple seasons there would be incredible. I won’t lie I’ve looked, theres a lot of demand for English speaking labor force at all levels due to the sharp influx in tourists from those countries. I’d go even just to live at a subsistence level and enjoy the snowfall and culture for a whole winter. The experience would be worth so much to look back on when older.

My wife and I have talked about trying to move there lol. She loves experiencing different cultures and I love skiing and big snow. A good match. The amount of snow that falls in many of those big ski resort towns is obscene and it’s high quality powder too. It’s like lake effect dumps that have a bit more moisture from coming across the ocean instead of a lake. Salt nuclei and all. It’s where my avatar is from, ha.

Lol neither of those two things for me. I just find myself in this zone where I want snow (would’ve hiked in the rain to get to snow the other day had I been home) but if it’s not going to snow I want nice weather. Very spoiled or entitled way to look at it I guess… trying to avoid cold crappy weather. Most of it comes I think from continuous obsession since being a kid of the western mountain climates. It’s either nice and mild out with sunshine, or it’s snowing. Even lately in October the mountain towns of UT/CO have been like 50s or 60s with sunshine, then it’s 28F and snowing 6”. A day or two later it’s back to mild and sunny, before the next storm system rolls in and somehow it’s cold enough to snow. You get this type of stuff out west. Here it would go from highs in the mid-50s to rain, heavy at times in the 40s, lol. There with dry air and low wet bulbs it goes 55F then 28-32F with snow, heavy at times. Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 30s. Increasing clouds. Highs in the mid 50s. Snow. Snow may be heavy at times after midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.

What’s happened to us? Agreed with both, it’s been right in the sweet spot for 7 weeks now of no utility payments or needs… no A/C and no heat. Just lingering in that between… though I haven’t been home and the last few days might’ve required some heat for the first time. Left the thermostat at 55F so I’m sure it’s not on with the place locked up and retaining warmth.

So you’d pre-purchase 5 days at $60/day but not $69 for one day in the East? Just curious there as the first statement seems like it’s insane to buy a ticket ahead of time in the east due to variability (not tied to a date, use anytime).

But what about dew points?