powderfreak

The change in just the last 24 hours has been nuts. A chilly, rainy 72 hours looks like it is injecting steroids into the foliage. Even on the hillsides down into town under 1,000ft it changed quite a bit.

I stupidly went for a hike. I look like I hopped in a shower fully dressed. Couldn’t get any more wet if I jumped in a pool. Plenty of leaf drop in the rain above 2500ft especially, the forest canopy is opening up.

Wait, are those colored leaves? Must be a pic from a past year.

So damn jealous, especially on a Saturday.

I just laugh because the radar looks like one of those evening mesoscale things where you are seeing 30-35dbz 2-3”/hr snowfall down the gap/valley there. The times CoCoRAHS has 1-3” snows around and you’ve got that spot 8”. I used to think it was luck, but there is without a doubt something about streamers lining up through the Winooski/I-89 slot there… squeezing converging moisture through a gap like a toothpaste tube. A little while ago I had 0.70” in the Stratus but your area should be over 1.00” tonight if not already.

Cold season must be coming. The J.Spin and Winooski Valley convergence zone has fired up.

~0.70” today. Rained all day, but cold season rain, not convective. Just that steady 0.05”/hr type stuff it seemed. Ceilings were very low all day. Low-50s temps.

We all need to move through the crap weather period, just different times for different latitudes. The best autumns are the ones where somehow you go from absolute torch, to that first deep trough bringing a snow chance. They do happen... like Indian summer type warmth/sunshine high-diurnal ranges, then cold front, deep trough, and then a follow up wave threatens snow. That's the dream lol.

It’s shocking how it works this time of year, ha, but you guys are now enjoying the weather I feel like I was a couple weeks ago when Bob was talking endless summer. It was 70-75F and beautiful top-10 days up here while folks were talking about high dews and no broke back summer down there. Now it’s 48-52F up north with synoptic chilly rain, low clouds, mist and foliage while the top-10 weather has arrived down there. This weather up here is sliding solidly into the “have no use for it” level that happens from 40-55F. Need 60-75F and sun again. I HATE being cooped up inside, pacing around looking outside like I want to be out in the woods and mountains .

Its so bad I came into work for the afternoon to get a few things done, so I can be in a position to duck out at noon on any nice day this week. I had around 0.40” in my Stratus when I left home. A steady stream of moisture heading NW to SE across the area.

It certainly wouldn’t be surprising if there was something to the rainfall distribution and timing of color throughout the region.

Closing in on peak, nice. That has to be pretty normal.

He’s trolling all of us lol. Despite having ample poster coverage from this area to Phin/Alex to you… refuses to believe it. Just like when his snow melts he tries to melt everyone else’s . I think of “average” as about a 7-10 day period anyway. Facebook reminds me of photos from past years every day and some are earlier than this year and some are later. No idea how a date would be put on it. This was 2013 or 14 on this date. Looks identical to now. The 2008 photos looked later. Last year was solidly earlier.

“Be glad you don’t live here.” A full weekend of rain, maybe 3 days of rain? Steady synoptic rain today all day long.

Yeah RT 100 on the whole between Killington to Mad River Valley to Waterbury to Stowe is like the apex of foliage traffic up here. And very few roads going east west in that stretch due to terrain aside from the Waterbury area.

Yes. Big difference between Friday afternoon through Sunday and Mon-Thur. Friday afternoon is check-in time, ha. Sunday is check-out. I’d bet the same is true over in NH on like the Kanc and other scenic routes with substantially more weekend traffic vs a Tuesday. Saturday has to be the absolute worst day of the week.

It’s definitely muted but I actually think the clouds and rain will add some saturation this weekend. Still a week to 10 days away from peak. Traffic this afternoon in these parts was like I-93 in the Boston area. The leaf peepers can have some special moves… saw a right turn blinker but quick left turn maneuver today. That’s always fun for some chaos.

Yeah I guess it works, never thought about it like that. I thought it was “your post is so weird that I’m confused because I don’t see that in the data.” But the weenie is also aimed at the original poster, so I can see it both ways. I truly always thought the confused was “I’m confused by the crap you’re making up” .

So when we put a laughing emoji it’s the poster who is laughing, not the reader? I always thought it was “I found that funny” not “you found that funny.”

Have had a lot of that lately here too. Normally this time of year we get some of those days with monster 40 to even 45 degree diurnal swings. Where it's like 30F in the morning and 70F in the afternoon... the temperature is always either going upward or downward during the day, never steady. This month has been mild minimums but the daytimes aren't really high either. Just like normal high temps but well above normal minimum temps. Low diurnal spreads.

What a miserable weekend coming in. The 3km NAM pretty much rains or has showers most of the time both days.

I guess I was more thinking lawns were dead last summer by August in drought… ground vegetation wilted not long after that, and then I’d figure the trees cut their losses for the year early and went dormant. What was the drought situation in Great Lakes last summer? Similar to parts of Northeast? Obviously there are a lot of factors, I guess my point was there are extenuating factors but I probably have better photo documentation than most folks and it happens to end within a general 7-10 day period yearly. Theres much more variation on the front end of fall foliage, but even in the warmest years it hits a point where it falls off a cliff and changes extremely rapidly. I always assumed that was the solar input. Like sometimes it’s a long foliage season with almost two peaks between Sept 15-Oct 15 here… other times it’s a quick acute change Oct 5-15. But after say Oct 15th, for whatever reason (solar?) it’s very hard to carry a full forest of leaves at this latitude. Even if they just go golden brown and fall off. There’s a much sharper back end to it IMO, the variation is more on the front end.

Yeah I guess I look at it all as the solar is going to fight the rising climate. You can’t carry green leaves into late October no matter how hot it is at this latitude in NNE. It could be 90F straight through and they’d be changing.

The thing with DIT is the projection of his thoughts in his backyard to all areas. If it’s dewey there, it’s dewey everywhere. Cutter melting his snow? Melt it all to CAR. Drought? It must be regionwide. The leaves are certainly behind last year but that’s because there was zero water in the ground, people worrying about their wells and stuff. If you have to worry about well water you can bet the trees aren’t having fun either, shut ‘em down early. But if you take two decades of foliage and average them, it’s definitely within a week of where it should be. Shocking too, as most of it has to do with solar and we know how much the sun angle varies from year to year lol.

I know you are just trolling at this point but you should take a NNE fall foliage tour in late October and tell us all how vibrant it is . On an aside, a friend and I looked at some past falls. We are definitely within a week or less of the past 20 years. This was 2008 first snow at Stowe on October 1st and the photos were a LOT greener than it is right now.