powderfreak

Flooding has been high-end in NNE. Inches of rain is one thing… but add in a very significant SWE melt and this is a big disrupter. How many times can places say “this is a once in 100 year event?” A friend/coworker’s view in Waterbury, VT. RT 15 in Johnson, VT, on the way to Smuggs from Stowe.

90mph at 600ft is absolutely wild though in the larger scheme of things. Don’t care if it’s a bit exposed. It’s not like it’s got 2k+ feet of prominence. Stack like half a dozen tall trees on top of each other to get there.

We are one lane to and from the ski resort now. This photo was earlier today before the culvert failed a second time and ate the entire northbound lane of RT 108 heading to the ski area. VTrans installed temporary traffic lights to keep the road open unless it fails a third time. Stowe now has two traffic lights.

Culvert failed up near the ski area on RT 108. Sounds like employees have left via small one lane passage on side.

We are flooding in Stowe.

I’ll add a hat tip too. I’m always going to lean against high-end events but think there’s a lot of value in admitting when my thoughts are wrong.

So many places around here have water like a foot from major roads. Just so much water. Small streams, drainages, big rivers.

That’s nuts. A 70” calendar year is w(e)ttt.

Yikes.

Yeah agreed, those 30-foot anemometer readings show the 30-foot wind speeds. Above that it likely increases. Depends on what height one wants to measure winds. If 100-200+ feet off the ground is the forecast value, then free air readings are definitely different animal than the ground level 2-M. Like I said who cares what the value is, if tree branches come down. 35-40mph at 2-M or 60mph off the deck.

55-63mph will uproot trees in any season. That’s some absolutely legit wind for inland zones. 40mph can uproot as well with wet thawed ground, it’s just not as sexy a number. I dunno, just witnessed a lot of weather over the years while monitoring the wx station readings on the Mtn. In the end, does the MPH value matter if the excitement and damage is there? If 40-50mph is very disruptive, does it matter if folks want it to be recorded as 60+mph.

Thanks. That’s always been a great scale. 55-63mph “seldom experienced inland; trees uprooted; considerable structural damage.” 40mph is much more impactful than folks think.

So how would you know what you gusted too? Not trying to be an ass but if you say you’ll gust to 65 (or whatever), how do you know what it is? Hear the roar and if branches come down it was 65? IMO wind is the most over-estimated weather observation out there. There is a lot of tossing locally measured values in favor of the highest measured values elsewhere. Gusting 40mph in the interior forests is very strong. That’ll bring down some stuff. But 60+ seems overblown. The NWS forecasts look good. People under-estimate the damage that can occur from 40mph with warm, wet ground.

On your Davis? Or what?

Unreliably it can gust that high in many wind events.

Agreed. It seemed 15-20 years ago you’d get the ETA and MRF to be too tame and something bombs and hugs the coast or is a super deep low with stronger winds. Now it is almost always the models are going too far in the strength side of the system. Maybe it’s a quickening jet, or whatever but the vast majority tend to become less impactful as H+0 approaches.

Eventually the wolf shows up. The boy can cry wolf over and over and over again. But eventually, the teeth will show up. And then he can claim victory that he knew it first, and no one listened. A shepherd boy repeatedly fools an internet forum into thinking wind is going to attack their town. When an actual high-wind event appears, the boy calls for help, the forum members think it is another false alarm, and their villages are eaten by wind.

Picked up 4” in squalls today at the Mtn and looks like even a couple inches in town. Enough for them to plow the driveway though that might have been overkill.

Right? We are closing in on 4” at the Lookout Plot since like 6-7am. 2-3” in the parking lot.

Same here. Low vis big flake squalls.

Details aren’t as important.

Gonna be tough for us to pull another rabbit out of the hat on that one.

Love this. Shows the parking lot vibe. The black and white shots on these days show what is important. White is snow, non-white is everything else.

Friend's photo... out that way they had 6-7" of paste last night. We had half that. This photo is from Elmore or Wolcott, on the line.

Nope, you're right, bad typo. Woodbury, VT. The Elmore, Wolcott, Woodbury, Cabot zone has done very well. Friends from the ski area who live out there have gotten dumped on in all of these.