michsnowfreak

For sure. It's funny I saw the Marquette national weather service Facebook page lighting up with people posting pictures of a few scrawny snowflakes hitting their windshield, even though they live in a place that gets well in excess of 100" of snow per year. The same people that mock downstate for having traffic issues in an 8 or 10" snowstorm posting close up shots of wet slush on their windshields. Does not matter how old you get, theres always extreme excitement in the 1st snowflakes.

I literally just mentioned yesterday that i stay out of this thread for the most part but I have to comment on our presidents theatrics again today. He is already back to down playing it, telling how the flu is worse and of course not wearing a mask. I find it amusing that our obese 74 yr old president caught his hoax virus so bad that he had to be taken to a hospital with round the clock care & oxygen and now a few days later he has recovered to feel "better than hes felt in 20 years". Even though most younger healthy people who catch a much more mild form feel effects of the virus for 2 weeks. I started symptoms before trump, never had anything close to needing oxygen or hospitalisation, and yet I still feel blah, tired, and slightly feverish.

2007-08 averaged exactly normal here temperature wise but is the 5th snowiest Winter on record. The Winter featured some huge rollercoasters including watching a foot of snow disappear in a day a few days before Christmas and a warm spell in January that gave us just about as warm a January day as we can ever get (wasn't officially the warmest, but it was up there). Patterns that are so volatile like that seem to keep feeding storms.

The NDJFMA period averaged 2.3° warmer here in 2019-20 than in 2018-19, yet we saw over a foot more snowfall in 2019-20. That's just the most recent example, and I'm 42N. Not sure how far south these things realistically happen but regardless people need to be very careful to not just jump to a quick conclusion when they see a bunch of orange or red on a map, at least before looking at the grid lol

Thank you! I look forward to that as well!

I agree. a classic la nina is stormy here in the lakes but I cant count on anything as the weather does what it wants. In fact every fall it's the same thing, it's fun to look at forecasts and speculate but we know it's full of unknowns

i stay out of it but ill say this. I tested positive Friday. I mask up everywhere in public, so I must've caught from a family member or friend (a friend did test positive, so thinking it's him but we definitely didn't have symptoms when we hung out). Fortunately I'm doing ok and my main symptoms are extreme fatigue, mild fever, and headache. Like many say it feels like having the flu, and actually I had the flu once as an adult and that was worse for me. I am already feeling a bit better today, still run down but I feel fortunate and confident that I will continue to improve. I certainly have to stay quarantined because if I gave it to someone else who's immunocompromised the result could be terrible for them. It's full of unknowns and yes most people like me will be fine but it's still not worth taking unnecessary risks in my opinion.

I rarely do

Euro doesn't look great but I don't consider +1-1.5C a blowtorch. As always it's gonna come down to storminess and if la nina lives up to its name there should be fun times.

If you want to talk verbatim, remember plus 1 to 1.5ﾟC is the departure of +1.8 to +2.7°F. That's nothing for northern areas.

I'm all for deleting that thread. no one is changing anyone's mind amd it just causes bickering.

Decent winter. good on snowcover but there were a few thaws. This was a good storm, broke the big snowstorm drought of the '30s-50s.

I'm thinking the already ahead of schedule fall color may get some acceleration this week with the cool shot.

I suppose I could take a blend of all 3 as well, but it's crazy how different my take in Michigan is compared to yours in New York. 95-96... Horrible screw zone. Cold and dry. Great if you like to ice fish 05-06... The definition of front loaded. Lots of snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas. A mild mess after New Year's. 07-08... Stormy, stormy, stormy with tons of snow.

Amazing comparison shots.

Same in southern Michigan. Seems like it's going to be an early peak everywhere. Haven't done any peeping yet but took a few pictures while out and about yesterday (see attached). Just a month ago I was planning a possible trip to Connecticut the 3rd week of October. Now that looks like it will be late almost everywhere. Taking a trip to northern Michigan the 1st week of October, hope that's not too late. Despite the drought, my brother is reporting some decent color showing up in Connecticut, not all dull as feared.

While it's normal to have bits of color showing up by now, I cannot recall this much color this early. The trees are turning fast and some of the colors are vibrant. Just took these today while out and about.

I just noticed last night's run stopped at 384, but the night before went to 840. Only the 00z though.

Did anyone else notice that the 00z GEFS now goes to 840 hours!?

My memory of that specific storm is kind of vague since I personally was never on the wintry side of it, but wasn't that the storm where they were predicting an epic ice storm for some areas that just did not materialize? Dont remember the snow aspect. We ended up with very heavy rain which ended as freezing rain then a dusting of snow.

Do you know what kind of trees you have nearby? There are some species of trees which do seem to be on the less impressive side no matter what, but when everything is mixed in together it's a great color show.

Romulus is definitely more rural, but the problem with any airport is all the concrete runways. If you are driving just south and west of DTW airport property, particularly on a radiational cooling night, watch your car thermometer absolutely tank, with a temperature reading much lower than the official temperature which is being taken just a spit away.

this is an interesting take since the modeled October outlook is sort of the opposite....warmer than average west and near average to possibly below average east. But who knows....seasonal forecasting is tough.

We've had a lot of vibrant color years for the most part but last year was quite dull but with an explosive but brief nice finale.

Color definitely seems early. I'm supposed to be headed out to the Jackson area later so it will be interesting if I see some good color on the road trip there. Went Apple picking the other day and you can already see some good color starting. here's a freeway shot lol.