michsnowfreak

Our snow from overnight has now completely washed away, back to the same piles we had before the snow. Not that it was unexpected, but still never fun to see.

I can try to look up the data however It's a little more difficult in the North country due to less climate stations. I would think Sault Saint Marie is probably the best option to look up? One thing that's pretty certain, it doesn't matter where you are looking, the 1970s were the coldest winters on record just as the 1930s & 1950s were some of the, if not the, warmest. So any Temp graph would have a similar downward curve if you did 1920 to 1970, upward curve you did 1970 to 2020, or a more subdued upward curve if you did 1920-2020. Snow and snow depth would be the interesting one, and I would think that either Alpena or the Soo would be the only places that had consistent records. interesting enough, the 2010s had the most 6"+ snowdepth days on record at Detroit, thanks in large part to 2013-14 & 2014-15...2nd place was the 1970s. The 1940s had the least.

I suspect its the same thing we see now. Milder winters caused more LES

you are correct, i didn't know this. One thing that's pretty common no matter where you look is the 1930s-50s were the most putrid period of winters for the northeast half of the country.

The 1970s were the coldest and in many cases snowiest decade on record. Thats why i brought up 100 years, though idk if winter sports were popular in 1920. If a snowmobiles heyday was in the 70s, i would see their point. The same chart ending in 1970 would show Buffalos winters had gotten 1.3° colder in the previous 50 years. just in case you're interested, here is Buffalos avg 6"+ depth days per decade 1900s- 21 1910s- 35 1920s- 26 1930s- 17 1940s- 27 1950s- 11 1960s- 32 1970s- 38 1980s- 27 1990s- 20 2000s- 26 2010s- 21 source: xmacis

Picked up a quick 0.9" of snow with the band. At 13.8"on the season.

Buffalo's average winter temperature averages 1.3° warmer and 2 days less per year with snow on the ground than 100 years ago. (Snowfall itself has increased significantly). It would seem to me like anyone who's into snow activities would still be into them the same. I go to northern MI every Feb and all you see is snowmobiles. We are often the only car parked in a restaurant lot of snowmobiles . I always thought of mid to late winter as the best time over early winter, even though Bing fills our minds with those gorgeous December scenes. Here, our winter temperatures are 0.8° warmer than 100 years ago, snowfall several inches more, and snowcover days have held nearly steady. Basically, it would seem like the slight increase in temperature is giving us more snow & precipitation so the net result is similar snowcover. Again im talking overall. Obviously it varies from year to year. Between 2012-15, the Great Lakes just saw 2 years with record ice cover and 1 year with record early U.P. snowmelt.

Makes sense. We had 3.6". I have a friend in Toledi who posted a pic and im thinking, thats way more than an inch lol. Nice brief burst of heavy snow tonight. Probably near an inch in less than 2 hours

What did you get on Christmas? TOL only reported 1.0" but they are west of Toledo

I said it was ridiculous that Chicago was talking seasonal futility less than a week ago. And I still say its ridiculous lol. anything can happen i suppose.. Only 4 more months to go I guess.

what link do you use for the para gfs? it's stuck on like a week old run on tidbits.

Hopefully it would yield a good clipper pattern. Im all for a clipper parade and cold. We've had 3 snowfalls of 3-4" so far which us better than many, but each only lasted on the ground 3-4 days. If it's going to be smaller snows, let's add them up. If it's going to snow melt snow melt snow melt, let's get a big one.

Well it helps that I have a lot of knowledge in my head about what are the good and bad years in Detroit lol. So I started by looking at snowfall at Chicago through December 31st, Then went down to December 15th. looked at all the years they were under 1" and compared it to Detroit snowfall to see how many of those times Detroit was 10" or more. It's not foolproof but I think I got it lol. Does that make sense?

The overnight system brought just 0.08" of light rain, but gusty winds and temperatures rising into the low 40s evaporated our Winter wonderland into piles and a few patches.

I played around a bit on xmacis, looks like its happened 3 times... 1932 2012 2020 1932 Detroit hit 10"+ on Nov 16 and Chicago was at 0.6". Season finished at 25.9" Detroit, 28.1" Chicago. 2012 Detroit hit 10"+ on Dec 29 and Chicago was at 0.8". Season finished at 47.7" Detroit, 30.1" Chicago. 2020 Detroit hit 10"+ on Dec 25 and Chicago was at 0.9". Season thru Dec 27 is 12.2" at Detroit, 0.9" Chicago.

After a surprise 3.6" of Christmas snow and seeing how much the models struggle/change run to run, I don't think ill ever feel fully confident of any scenario in any event.

Where was this pic taken from? Neat pic.

Weenie snow pile at the mall lol. Gray and cold winter day today following Christmas snow.

lake effect is amazing

Finished with 3.6" of powder. Bit of blowing and drifting and very cold, as temps hovered in the upper teens to low 20s the entire event. What a Christmas treat. Since it was a model fail until midday Christmas Eve it was unexpected by most. But it fell on the one day most wouldn't mind. As much as 4-7" was reported near Port Huron. While much less fell west of Eastern MI, it still was an unexpected white Christmas for most with between a dusting and 2". I am at 12.9" on the season. Its been an odd season in that the eastern and southern suburbs of Detroit have seen much more than the north and west suburbs. DTW saw 3.0", putting them at 12.2" on the season.

not sure but xmacis may help. its pouring snow now in the last band.

What a fun surprise event in eastern Michigan. Absolutely postcard Christmas weather. Snowing beautifully all day, probably around 3" now. With temperatures in the upper teens to low twenties it's pure powder.

Thank you and Merry Christmas! This is one of those dime a dozen snowfalls, but to fall starting on Christmas Eve night makes it magical. The excitement of kids waking up to fresh snow and Santa has come 1.5" of powder and should see an afternoon uptick. Already 3.5" near port huron. they may get 6 after gfs had not a flake yesterday at this time.

it was too east with the snow band tonight, the last model to correct west. but yes, they all seem to struggle

the gfs has seemed to have the poorest performance lately