michsnowfreak

Wow, nice. Ill allow it since its still late October, but hand that magnet back over lol!

Thanks! The colors are so nice this year. We usually have pretty vibrant autumns, but last year was a bit dull. This year did not disappoint but fall is always SO short! At least in terms of natures amazing color display. That's why going out Sunday with an absolute must for me. It was actually a very cloudy day but it cleared around 4p.m. and there is nothing like the late day light of autumn when colors are at their peak.

Hey now, dont sell your winter short long before it starts lol. You may see more severe winter weather than that. However that said, whats going on in the Rockies is VERY impressive. They are used to October and May snows, as well as January days of 70F, but this is something else. With all the subpar winters Denver has had lately, this might be one of the severest stretches of winter weather theyve had in some time.

Took a walk during the late afternoon right before sundown on Sunday to enjoy the peak color. It was gorgeous outside. Autumn in all its glory. This weekend will likely be spent raking.

Definitely looks like an early dose of Winter. But we had quite bc a few snowfalls last November before December turned very mild and then Winter roared back in January. Hopefully this Christmas season has lots of snow to go with it!

You had a May snowfall?

True. I had 96.2" and Detroit 94.9" in 13-14. But it wasnt JUST the snow, it was the severity of the winter. The brutal cold, winds, and nonstop blowing snow which is why i have a hard time seeing that winter matched for overall severity. In shear terms of snowfall, especially with it seemingly increasing in the lakes, id say its definitely possible.

Impossible lol. But i can dream.

some fall color shots this past weekend in SE MI

Most years areas they get MUCH less snow than you, and less snow than me, get snow before us out in the Plains. Obviously the northern plains get harder hit but even further south. Just how it works, and a sign that Winter is knocking on the door!

The northern plains are set to see a potentially historic snowstorm in a few days that is "unheard of for October" in terms of size and intensity. This is after the more isolated but very intense Montana snowstorm last week. Two unheard of snow storms before mid October!!! Perhaps it will be signs of a wild Winter this year. The northern plains and Western States usually get snow before us, but this is quite an early start!

Yeah last winter did not deliver any big storms here (biggest 6.1") and was below avg in snowfall despite colder than avg temps for the cold season. Despite this i had never seen a winter here with so many ice storms. Ice (outside of a few minor glazes) had been really missing in action for a while here. It was still a fairly "wintry" winter, just nothing exciting in the snow department here. Which after so many years of se mi snowmagnet, i can share some. But im certainly hoping for a snowy winter this year!

Hoping for a good Winter sub forum wide!

The duration of that heat here has certainly lessened compared to what it looked like it would be, it's basically going to be one very warm sultry day tomorrow come up but it will definitely feel like July. So glad crisp autumn weather is right on its heels.

Wow what a rollercoaster the first week of October will be. Possibly from July heat to November chill.

Remember though this is a new GFS then we had last fall. Support is definitely growing for a cold shot around this time although it would not surprise me if the GFS was over doing it at the very beginning of the cold season. Actually the most annoying thing about this new GFS is it's outrageous "urban heat island" anomalies around all the big cities which are completely unrealistic. Definitely a kink that needs to be worked out.

Does not look too persistent past this weekend

As the fall color show is in its early stages, I wonder if the warmer than average temperatures will have any effect?

Late June at that. It was hoodie weather WELL into June. Then July was hot and humid almost continuously, and then August started hot and ended cool.

I have noticed the early fall color showing up and I hope the upcoming warm weather does not screw with it. This will be the 1st real heat we've had since mid-late August. Detroit had 10 days of 90ﾟ this year, which is to below average, but all 10 came between June 28 and July 29th.

They were originally calling for 2-3" here...we got a trace lol

Crazy as not long ago you were terribly wet. it's and dry here too but I lucked out with an isolated storm yesterday dropping 1.65" of rain. I had a TOTAL of 1.94" in July.

Yes they did. And unlike Milwaukee, DTW is not located in the urban core, rather it is an outlying area. Actually near the airport is a sort of rural area, and the South end of the airport valleys so temperatures get much colder, especially at night. On February 20, 2015 when DTW officially had -13ﾟ, when I drove by that spot on the South side of my car registered -22ﾟ. I would not want the thermometer located there either, because thats sort of unfairly low, but I too am convinced that the current placement of the thermometer is causing readings to be a bit elevated compared to surrounding areas.

The Europe heatwave is something. Also, a huge summer cold snap is going on in Russia.

I have complained multiple times about Detroit having the same issue that you describe in Milwaukee. It seems it's not a problem with the thermometer themself, but rather the immediate area/environment surrounding the station, as well as exact station location. The thermometer itself is probably accurate, but i admit it irks me when tenths of degrees are so important for certain things, but official climate records are VERY subject to changes from past years due to asos placement.