michsnowfreak

They do not look like January 1990 verbatim. January 1990 was much warmer in the Northeast and midwest than today's run of the euro weeklies is for January 2026. You are essentially doing the same thing you constantly criticize JB for doing. You are taking a mild look and throwing out eye catching warm years past, despite the fact they dont match.

Theres a large pile at the mall here. That will be here all winter. But the rest, stay tuned lol.

After the holiday mild period, will be interesting to see if Jan-Feb takes on a classic nina like roller coaster pattern. With plenty of cold in Canada and plenty of warmth to the south, that may just be in the offing as we head deeper into winter.

I didnt say he isn't, just pointing that out. GHD1 was still a big storm here...it just failed to reach expectations in SE MI. Actually boggles my mind that this bust is still talked about with everything thats happened in the 15 years since. Its not like we expected 3 feet and got 0, we expected 12-18" and got 8-11" GHDII (16.7" DTW) and Jan 22 2005 (12.2") were huge storms at Detroit with plenty of arctic air around...to say nothing of the insanity of Jan 6, 2014. Following nearly 11" of snow temps dropped to -14° in hours.

White Christmas looking unlikely. Bummer, but we've had snowcover the entire Christmas season to now, so thats been nice. After the holiday mild period, will be interesting to see if Jan-Feb takes on a classic nina like roller coaster pattern. With plenty of cold in Canada and plenty of warmth to the south, that may just be in the offing as we head deeper into winter.

He doesn't consider 6-9" a big storm lol

The month will nearly certainly finish colder than avg, though the extent of the upcoming thaw (and how much of the near record warmth in the southern plains makes it north) will dictate just how much.

First half of December was very impressive in its persistence of cold. The depth of cold was more impressive in the Great Lakes than the northeast, but even then, the widespread magnitude of well below normal temperatures was impressive over a huge area. The entire first half of December is almost ironic given the numerous posts in this very thread about volcanoes, cold being brief and not widespread, etc. First half of December rankings: Flint: 3rd coldest in 105 years Ann Arbor: 4th coldest in 145 years*** Detroit: 5th coldest in 152 years Grand Rapids: 5th coldest in 133 years Green Bay: 6th coldest in 140 years Toledo: 7th coldest in 153 years Cleveland: 8th coldest in 155 years Pittsburgh: 8th coldest in 151 years Baltimore: 10th coldest in 154 years Lansing: 12th coldest in 163 years Chicago: 13th coldest in 154 years Milwaukee: 13th coldest in 155 years Washington DC: 19th coldest in 154 years New York City: 25th coldest in 157 years For Detroit, going back to 1906 (as far as I have records), 2025 is officially only the 2nd December to have 1”+ snowcover every day for the first half of December. The only other time was 1910. To be fair, we should include 1974, as a massive snowstorm hit on Dec 1st but the snow depth at 7am was just a T. Even then, only 1910, 1974, and 2025 were nonstop blanketed in snow the entire first half of December. This shows just how early it REALLY is, but we just have to hope that the entire load of cold wasnt blown before the Winter Solstice. *** I included Ann Arbor as even though it isnt a first order station, it is one of the few stations you will find whos location has never moved (Univ of Mich campus).

First half of December was very impressive in its persistence of cold. Southern Michigan seemed the most impressive record-wise in terms of all-time placement, but widespread temp departures of -10F to -13F encompassed the sub. Flint: 3rd coldest in 105 years Ann Arbor: 4th coldest in 145 years Detroit: 5th coldest in 152 years Grand Rapids: 5th coldest in 133 years Green Bay: 6th coldest in 140 years Toledo: 7th coldest in 153 years Cleveland: 8th coldest in 155 years Pittsburgh: 8th coldest in 151 years Lansing: 12th coldest in 163 years Chicago: 13th coldest in 154 years Milwaukee: 13th coldest in 155 years For Detroit, going back to 1906 (as far as I have records), 2025 is officially only the 2nd December to have 1”+ snowcover every day for the first half of December. The only other time was 1910. To be fair, we should include 1974, as a massive snowstorm hit on Dec 1st but the snow depth at 7am was just a T. Even then, only 1910, 1974, and 2025 were nonstop blanketed in snow the entire first half of December.

December can be the coldest month in la nina, but doesn't mean the other 2 months "torch". Also, this December has been more than "cool" so far.

I found 3 instances at Detroit where more than half the seasons snowfall fell by December 15th. Thru Dec 15...season total 2005-06: 21.0"...36.3" 1890-91: 17.2"...31.4" 1932-33: 13.1"...25.9" For comparison, season average is 42.7" with avg to Dec 15th being just 5.5". 2025-26 is at 12.6" to date.

That is true

Based on what?

Saw this cool guy today. Im sure he isn't looking forward to Thursday either.

I have a weather enthusiast friend who's objective but always on the pessimistic side, so im surprised hes hellbent on models being too warm in the extended.