michsnowfreak

I do.

Yeah. ENSO affects winter the most, with more subtle effects in summer/Fall. I absolutely love Fall, so Im hoping that its a seasonable October. Some strong Nino falls tend to be cool, but if this strong nino isnt acting like one, then who knows?

Weve always discussed the weather in the ENSO threads. Im really going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling the Cansips not caving from its cold idea is what prompted that suggestion.

I know everyone already knows this, but TCC and twitter/x handler TheGlobalWarmer are the same person, so in addition to always quoting/replying to his own posts, TCC is now embedding his own TGW tweets. Detroit got a special shout out because I corrected the BS of a normal winter with transient cool shots by posting the actual mean temp maps showing it was a cold winter in the east. This year has been unusual in many areas due to the large diurnal swings. This is why TCC has suddenly abandoned actual avg/mean temps for max temps only. Due to the very warm Mar/Apr, the year is still running above avg to date, despite the fact that Mar/Apr are the only warmer than avg months since October. Detroits avg max temp year to date of 50.2F ranks 19th warmest....but the avg min temp of 31.1F is tied with 6 other years for 59th warmest. Thus, the actual mean temp is 30th warmest to date, tied with 3 other years. It stuck in the craw of the heatmisers that it was an unexpectedly cold winter in the Lakes/east, so theres plenty of excess energy to burn after a warm spring. With the record warmth out west, it was seen as criminal that people in the east were discussing the cold winter where they lived rather than the warm west where they didnt live. And again, no one was acting like this was some record cold winter...it was just a consistently cold, white winter, esp from MI eastward, despite the fact that some tried to paint it as normal. Jan 15-Feb 9th was the 3rd coldest on record at Detroit. Extend that out 4 days to a full month-period (intra month, a stat we have seen posted here many, MANY times wrt warmth), it was the 11th coldest 30-day period on record for Detroit Jan 11-Feb 9th. Quite a transient cool shot! Dec-Jan combined ranked 36th coldest out of 153 years, although the actual avg min temp during this timeframe ranked 26th coldest out of 153 years. The entire winter 2025-26, with a mild 2nd half of Feb, ranked 44th coldest out of 153 years, but the avg min temp for DJF ranked 31st coldest out of 153 years.

May finished as the 5th colder than avg month of the past 7. However, due to the extreme nature of the Mar/Apr warmth, the year-to-date is still running warmer than avg. Nov: -0.4 Dec: -3.6 Jan: -5.2 Feb: -0.2 Mar: +4.9 Apr: +4.2 May: -1.6

Ive noticed that too...and im certainly NOT one of them lol. I love cold. But it goes without saying that "cold" and "mild" are extremely subjective terms. Cold in Detroit is different than cold in NYC, to say nothing of the difference between NYC and where you live, and so on. A mild winter here will still be cold enough to snow much of the time. This is why as always storm track/pattern is more important than just temps. I hear the east coast guys talk of their worst winters where they can count on on one hand the number of times it snowed. Its a lock that its going to snow here dozens of times...the key is will there be worthwhile storms? Will it be abnormally dry? And so on.

Cfs will change only a thousand more times before November.

Not to mention more selective cherry picking. He always selects whatever variable and time frame is the warmest. There's been an unusually high (especially for recent decades) diurnal range this year. So the mins are much lower in ranking than maxes. As you said, broken record. The usuals didnt peep a word about the cold winter but once the unusually warm march/April hit they returned in full force. I mean how many ways can you say it? March/April were very warm and the rest of the time since November was not. Here is the WINTER AVG TEMP rankings this past winter. No selected variables, no selected time frames, just the average rankings for the mean winter temp. Warm west/cold east. Imagine that.

Not sure about the NE but here my early gut call is of the 3 DJF months to expect one good winter month, one terrible (ie warm, little snow) winter month and the third is a wild card. I also expect early and late season snow.

Wow guess it was all over the region haha. Highs/lows in SE MI: DTW official- 81/48 Detroit City- 83/47 Flint- 81/41 Monroe- 81/42 But the winner... Ann Arbor- 80/38 Unofficially here was 80/45.

Lmao. Once again. Over their heads. No one argued that the -2.6° in chicago in Jan 2025 was record cold. It was brought up because maxim said it would be a WARM month days before the months began. Jan 2026 had impressive cold. It was -5.2° at Detroit and both December and January were solidly colder than avg for even the coldest 30 year normals in the period of record. Jan was -4.4 compared to the entire POR and Dec -2.1 to the entire POR. But thats "seasonal" and "normal". It was such a cold winter in the east that the trolls either disappeared or completely fixated on the west. Thats when you know it WAS cold. Jan 15-Feb 9 was 3rd coldest on record for Detroit (I usually dont post intra month data sets like that but hey, they do all the time when it's warm!). And thats already the coldest time of the year. The warmth of march/April was discussed but apparently not enough for the liking of some which is what started a tantrum because its not discussed enough.

I will be spending 10 days in June with a much colder view...going to Alaska June 7-17! Bucket list trip.

Diurnal range today is going to be off the charts here.

I look at all kinds of records, always have since Ive followed weather. My preference for cold doesnt stop my documentation of all weather (ive kept track of daily weather imby for 30 years now!). If you dont document every single weather event, anomaly, etc than you dont have a climate base to follow. But a few of those one-sided stat machines for warmth only pop in to stir the embers every now and then. Actually, I overlooked this during winter, but I just now realized Jan 15 - Feb 9th, the climatologically coldest time of the year, was 3rd coldest on record at Detroit this year. 3rd coldest of 153. I call that impressive, they call that "the west was warm".

I used to fertilize regularly but no longer do. Just a little preen every now and then. Let nature be nature.