michsnowfreak

Who uses "ever" when referencing weather stats? I know it absolutely drives you insane that so much of the region saw above avg snowfall in the 2000s-10s. Ohio was clearly an anamoly in the well above avg snow that dominated MI/WI for many winters (particularly 2005-2015) but the trend of up then down the past 20 years is the same at Cleveland and toledo as the rest. TOL- past 10 years, 24.2", previous 10 years- 42.9" CLE- past 10 years 38.0", previous 10 years- 65.6"

I was just at meijer. The snow piles in the parking lot are gone. They were massive when I was there like 10 days ago.

We won't know the reality for months, but i would be SHOCKED if the 2026-27 el nino is strong. You just dont get strong events like that 3 years apart.

Once again. I have no doubt warmth will eventually spread further north and east. Especially as our snow is gone, ice is breaking up on the lakes and the ground is thawing. But none of the ensembles show massive warmth engulfing the lakes into new England right after March 20th.

Sorry. Back to '26-27

His point about cold winning out from the western warmth the further east you went is very apparent from the winter temp departure.

Yes its torching today. I wasnt referring to you, I was referencing the fact that as soon as winter got off to a cold start, some were "projecting" a warm jan, then a warm feb. Like you, I primarily care about the weather where I live (SE MI) so the frequent posts about record warmth in the West were an afterthought in our cold, white winter. This winter was unusually in that Detroit averaged quite a bit colder than Chicago, but it made sense in this pattern as Chicago was further west. It was still a colder than avg winter at ORD, but very front loaded.

My sister lives across the street from Lake St Clair and the ice is breaking up and pushing ashore.

Not sure. It does seem like the wishcasting warmth for the east this winter has been no different than previous years when some wish casted cold. Its usually short-lived or fails. Obviously theres a warmer signal after the cold (which does not seem confined to just Mar 16-19) but ill remain very skeptical of a torch here until it is imminent. Haven't finished above avg at Detroit since Oct. Nov: -0.4° Dec: -3.6° Jan: -5.2° Feb: -0.2°

AI Euro has done decent this winter. But get ready for plenty of model waffling this week.

The warmth has been crazy all winter out West. Glad its not here though. Detroit hasn't had a warmer than avg month since October.

The ensembles go to day 16 and its cold in the Great Lakes and east coast

Signal remains strong...but still a week out

Your last line actually makes sense (this is not the mlb forum ). It would be interesting to see who are just snow lovers, who are winter lovers, and who are both. Because there absolutely are three groups. In the Lakes subforum I know who's who but dont call em out. Im all 3. It can snow to the end of April but thats not winter. I generally think of winter as mid november to mid March. Even though march averages more snow than November, November absolutely seems like the more wintry month here lately.

Confirmed. With 4 fatalities it was the deadliest Michigan tornado since May 1980. I think lack of warning hurt.