Yes but then if I go to the stores in Erdenheim or Flourtown during heavy rains like this, there's a big hill I would go down along Bethlehem Pike, and I know it probably floods there at Bethlehem Pk and Montgomery at the bottom of the hill. That is why I am always impressed with Springfield Township because they have equipment to keep their storm drains cleared!!! They also have a catch pond near there too and it's all part of the Wissahickon Watershed that they have been continually working on improving too.