George001

If it’s over the cape that’s fine but a lot of them go into western mass. Hopefully the offshore and inland runner camps meet in the middle.

Looks like 2 camps one SWFE camp and 1 Miller B camp

Isn’t it more a Miller B than SWFE?

I’m not sure how relevant this is, but the La Niña increased in strength over the past week. It’s down to -1.1 now in the enso 3.4 region.

Lets get that 100 miles south. I still like what I saw from the Canadian, yeah it still needs some work but it’s a step in the right direction.

Yeah looks like the Sunday threat isn’t really going to pan out. On to the bigger storm threat Friday.

It’s very possible we could see a plains blizzard and a New England blizzard from the same storm, it doesn’t happen often but when we get blocking of this magnitude storms can take unusual tracks.

The “cutter” is turning into a Miller B

Euro time

Canadian has an ice storm

You bring up a valid point. I’ve noticed that storms get weaker a lot as we go into the mid range. Sometimes the models re strengthen in the short range and sometimes they dont, we will have to see what happens with it. Hopefully it only weakens a little rather than becoming a shredded mess.

I don’t think it’s done either, gfs has a progressive bias so it could be breaking down the -NAO too early. So the storm could easily slow down even more, increasing QPF. Big Euro run tonight.

I’m expecting a burial on Friday. Even if the low track sucks, it can snow east of the low. We got over a foot of snow from a storm with a primary into Chicago a couple of years ago. Now the primary for this one is in Wisconsin, and yeah that’s not great. Does it need work? Yeah, but the pattern supports not only more aggressive secondary redevelopment offshore, it also supports a strong low, and a slow mover. This drastically increases the ceiling for all of us, even the cape, Long Island, and NYC are in the game for this. We have the NAO and EPO negative, the PNA is also negative. We have 2/3 favorable teleconnections which is very good for us. I don’t even think we had a negative NAO for that storm, this time we do have one.

Upper level thermals aren’t bad, looks like the rain snow line would be near the mass pike. It’s the gfs though so it will probably shift 1000 miles next run.

gfs caving to the better guidance

I noticed that the mood here changes a lot, and the change lines up with what the OP gfs run looks like. I haven’t been on this board super long but have been a weenie for years, and what I learned is that the surface maps don’t matter all that much. It’s the large scale pattern that matters, I would rather see a bunch of whiffs and cutters with a favorable teleconnections than a bunch of blizzards with a raging positive NAO, positive EPO and negative PNA.

Kev might get his ice storm

Even if it starts as rain, If the more recent guidance has the right idea of the secondary redevelopment (Miller b) occurring off the Jersey shore, then the low has plenty of time to deepen to the 980s or even 970s before it gets to our latitude. The dynamical cooling in my opinion will lead to this being snow for even coastal areas. There was a lot of talk about a big dog with the upcoming pattern before it got delayed, could this be it?

Hell yeah it’s turning into a Miller B! I noticed on the models there is 2 or even 3 lows so I figured it must be a Miller B. An swfe has only one low right?

The 12th went the wrong way tonight, disappointing. Still close though, and the Canadian turned the 15th “cutter” into a Miller B.

I still think it’s going to turn into a Miller B. Probably favors CNE and NNE though.

I’d like to see that northern piece dive in earlier like the 12z yesterday

Nao reload as well?

Even if we get skunked by this pattern the first 2 threats, the geps improved with the pacific in the long range so we should get more chances.

I noticed looking the the H5 the lobe over Maine is farther SW on the runs that are more aggressive with the 1st storm threat. Not only that, but the runs that really blow up the 1st storm threat are better with the 2nd threat. A lot of times you see patterns where it’s one or the other, this pattern looks like we get both storms or nothing. Still needs work, but it’s encouraging to see the 0z guidance trending towards the Canadian while the Canadian itself sticks to its guns.