ORH_wxman

Was nice late morning but since then we’ve had a lot of clouds and wind has picked up. Temp has fallen about 4F off its high too. Back into the upper 40s.

That wraps up severe season here…we won’t top that one the rest of the season. Hail was really impressive for a few min.

Just got smoked with hail

Yeah we’re due for some good Decembers. We’ve paid back our surplus from the 2000s at this point. It’s kind of like how we had a pretty long stretch of lousy Marches until 2013 broke it and then we had a bunch of good ones. I’m feeling a december turn-around at some point here soon. The funny part though is on paper, the interior had great snow Decembers in 2019 and 2020 but the cutters rendered them pretty mediocre for sensible wx. 2019 did keep pack most of the month but it had the same feel as this winter where it was often thin and icy because it was leftovers from a cutter. Last really wintry December here was 2017.

That's too bad...it was a pristine coop....those are getting rarer and rarer these days.

40" is really hard to do....a few spots got it in 1995-1996....not sure anyone did in 2004-2005, maybe briefly down near PYM but even there probably not. 2014-2015 is really the only season that did it in the coastal plain in a widespread fashion. ORH hills are a different animal...you aren't going to compete with their longer term snow depths if you are on the CP.

Yeah, I mean he's not in Pinkham Notch, but that area has a much higher return rate on 100" winters than where you are or down in Ginxyland. Obviously the last few seasons haven't been good there, but it doesn't really change those stats. Nobody has been really cleaning up recently. Even last winter (2020-2021), the zone that was above average was not threatening any major milestones. You had like an area of 70"+ from where I am to ORH and some 60"+ totals into N CT and N RI. It wasn't a blockbuster.

Your area had like 125" in '95-'96....I doubt Scooter beat you that winter. The only one for sure is 2014-2015. What about 2000-2001, 1992-1993, 1976-1977, or 1968-1969? Those were all huge winters up there that crushed the totals on the coast and S of pike.

Your ceiling is higher up there than south of the pike. From a raw percent anomaly standpoint it probably isn't, but from an absolute snowfall total it is. You can get 100" a lot easier than a place like N Foster for example (I purposefully picked a pretty good S of Pike station).

Lot of uncertainy later next week....seems like Tuesday is probably going to be pretty nice, but no guarantees after that. Some guidance punches us into a warm sector for an early summer preview but others show legit hideous high to our northeast screwing us over.

Yeah it was really bad there.

Yeah the GFS was utterly brutal..... Euro is trying to sneak at least 1 early summer day in there next Wednesday, but then I don't like the look by 216h....you have the big low out in the lakes and lurking CAD setting up in Maine and NH. Verbatim it still busts us into the 70s next Thursday, but it's 48F in PSM/Cape Ann while its 75F in ORH....more often than not that gradient ends up 100 miles southwest.

And there's the CAD showing up next week....hopefully we can sneak in a 70 burger before it hits us

Euro would prob be upper 70s to maybe low 80s if that verified. I’m bracing for the two by four to the back of the head though…waiting for that BDF to show up. But it would be a welcome several days if it doesn’t. I remember mid April 2002 very well…think we busted out like 3 or 4 consecutive 85-90F days. It was a true taste of summer. April 2009 did as well though maybe a day shorter in duration.

Looks like the accumulating snow level was about 1500-1600 feet. The very top of "little wachusett" in the foreground looks slightly whitened and I think thats about 1500 feet at the top of that one.

Yeah that storm was good. I got a bit over 8” and it was dense typical SWFE type snow that was hard to melt even with the late Feb/early March sun angle. You can see why when we get a couple of those types of systems back to back earlier in a winter (like Dec or Jan with low sun angle), it sets the stage for a good pack winter. That stuff is just really tough to melt. Totally different than the blower fluff on 1/7.

If the person weights cold and pack retention heavily, then they could. But for most people who post on here, I’d agree since most people here value large storms disproportionately.

Yeah the blizzard here was pretty good too even though we didn't get into the max zone....but hard to complain about 18.5". I actually thought I was going to end up around 14 or 15 inches, but it just kept going into the evening with those rotting bands over us so that was a nice finish to the event. If I had gotten less than 15" from that storm, I'd prob lower the seasonal grade to a D+, but 18"+ storms don't grow on trees despite what George from Foxborough tells us. 43" is pretty bad for that area...is that total for PWM or GYX? It would be even worse if it was GYX since I'd suspect their climo is a solid 10" more than PWM. Your area to SE NH and back into interior CNE is due for a big winter. I'm guessing these past 4 years are the worst 4 year stretch since the late 1990s there. '18-'19 was decent but it was better more into NNE (like Sunday River-Phin/Alex-BTV axis) than it was in CNE.

I’ll give it a C- here. Though I considered a D+, but I can’t give it a grade that low when I’m just over 55” here for the season and climo is in the low/mid 60s. But there were way too many cutters this winter which prevented my pack from ever reaching 20” and in my subjective grading I weight the holiday period a little extra which was mostly garbage (although we did get an inch of snow on Xmas Eve which produced a white Xmas). I also did get 4 warning events though which is ok (1/7, 1/29, 2/13-14, and 2/25). Winter hill would get a D+ though since they did worse in the 2/13 event, blizzard, and the 1/7 event and their climo is already a higher starting point.

Yeah that actually looked really nice on the long range. I fully expect it to disintegrate as we get closer though.

Yeah ORH could get some Sunday too. Might be too warm but it wouldn’t be shocking either if they latently cool enough at 1000 feet to get a quick half inch or something.

I think the only other time I've experienced an established winter pack (so that rules out years like '97 where it was freshly falling) that looked like that on 4/1 here was 2001....some years like 2018, 2017, and 2013 (and maybe even 2005?) had snow cover still leftover but it wasn't full-on pack everywhere...it was typical sun torched areas bare with woods and shaded regions holding old pack.

You are arguing against a strawman. Exactly zero of my posts said it would finish below normal for the month. I clearly stated that the end of the month had a cold pattern and that the month would finish colder than multiple years since 2012 debunking your claim that this would be the warmest March since 2012. After I posted those things, you went on a rampage of posts with beer cans flying everywhere. IPA caps found in the couch cushions days later.

You literally told me how off the deep end I was replying to my post about how there were several Marches since 2012 that would be warmer than 2022 and also how "blues don't mean cold" when I said the end of the month would be cold. Take the L dude....

Time for verification: For BDL or ORH (doesn't matter which one he picks), March 2022 will come in colder than March 2021, 2020, and 2016. Don't need to post numbers for the cold in the final week of the month....everyone knows it was cold (broke or tied daily record maxes at all SNE first order sites a few days ago).