Albedoman

hit the forecast right on the nose. T storms redeveloping right around Philly. NWS discussion has left out the LV again of why we were screwed again.. What else is new. They are too worried about PWAT's in the forecast that do not even come to fruition. The 70% chance of rain has dwindled to 30% by 1:00 pm for the LV. I really do not see a measurable rain over one inch for the rest of the month. Normal for July should be around 4 in. Have had less than .25 in at my house. Drought watches coming soon. Current streamflow on the Little Lehigh is now in severe drought conditions. https://waterwatch.usgs.gov/index.php?r=pa&m=real&w=map

You can fire as many phasers (rain showers) at it and they just get absorbed in the dry shield around the LV. The line of t showers hits the LV and is done for. 20 drops at my house. Fricking unbelievable as the storm line separates again , goes south and north for the upteenth time this summer. Any storm line that hits the LV at 10 am is done for too All we get are stratus debris clouds from the storms with a few drops. By the time the line gets to philly area and south, they will be regenerating with raging t-storms again. The sun will come out soon and we will be in the 90's again with no heat advisory -typical screw job

Long shot thats for sure. Last week when had a t storm watch and 80% chance , less than 20% of the area got any precip and that was short lived. Its going to take a tropical wave/storm to break this stubborn pattern

The storm line struck the foul line pole near Walnutport and disappeared. Its like drying a wet spot on a shirt with a hair dryer. The rain disappeared within minutes in this desert air.

Oh I am here and watching. Keeping a low profile as seeing is believing for many posters. A back to back La Nina pattern for 2-3 years is killing this country right now. The evapotranspiration rate is a killer right now and it only going to get worse. The only way to break this routine is a tropical storm which will not appear until mid August or later. Hit and miss t storms with no chance of training is the norm right now. The base flow stream levels are dropping fast and I expect drought watches to be issued by the end of month. Here is the link for your perusal. We are in a moderate drought https://www.drought.gov/location/18062

Let the screw zone live on. What a fail. I was expecting a decent chance of a good t storm for the LV. It is fading real quick. That 80% chance of precip in the forecast looks more like 20% with the aerial coverage depicted on the radar right now. The .35 in of rain on Saturday was just enough to knock off the scorched leaves on my Kousa tree. It is going to real bad for lawns here by the end of the week.

finally a half inch of rain overnight. That was a multi million dollar rain for the farmers in our area.

the key to this pattern is the extreme low day and night humidities from the distinct dominance of the canadian highs over the Bermuda Highs taking control. Add to that dying cold fronts that stall to south of the Mason Dixon line and cloudy nights that prevent dew formation on the vegetation add up to a significant recipe of extreme dryness in the soils. We must have the return of the cold fronts stalling or dying north of the LV and short waves riding the fronts. That pattern has completely disappeared since April. Its seems every time we have had a chance for this , a stronger cold front moves through our area and prevents stalling of the fronts. The lifting mechanism for training of t-storms have been non-existent this year too. Its just like a typical late December weather pattern where the dry cold air does not meet with moisture from the south and is typical of La Nina dominated pattern.

hory crap, 52 drops tonight. Just enough to spot the car windshield with pollen and dust in the morning. Hits the LV wall and virtually is gone in 15 minutes. Never seen such a dry pocket of air over us like this. well , I got 20 drops more than this weekend, so that it is a plus. The corn today in Breinigsville is so spiked, I just do see how it will make it. ITs bee at least ten years since I have seen such severity in the corn spiking. My zucchini have stopped producing and for the first time, the canadian geese have come over in my yard as the fields are drying up and the humidity during the afternoon drops into the 30% range. Even the ground is cracked in the wetland areas.

can you say screw zone? LV getting screwed again. Wow I got thirty drops of something. They should cancel the t- storm watch north of quakertown. There is no way the LV will even get a decent t-storm looking at the radar.

Nada for tonight for the LV. This is getting bad. The 60% chance is quickly turning into a 10% chance with less than .25 inch. That will not even put a dent in the soil conditions. I put a shovel in the ground today and it was like concrete and this was in the shady woods. Well, it looks like it will take a tropical storm to break this crappy pattern we are in. Cooler is not necessarily better at this point. I expect drought watches to be issued by the end of the month for our area as the base flow of the Little Lehigh is really falling quickly

MT Holly has said nothing in their discussion about how abnormally dry this weather pattern has been for anyone nw of Philly. What are their thoughts? Everyday, its Delmarva this and Delmarva that. There is a LV and metro area north of Philly where over 3 million people live and read their weather discussion. Please guys, I am interested your thoughts too. Is too much emphasis is placed on the Delmarva region? Is it because it is closer to Mt Holly? Just because it does not rain, does not mean there should be no discussion about how the weather pattern has affected these other subareas of your CWA. Simply saying it will be drier this weekend when it has not rained more than .05 in in two weeks is not part of a good discussion without some reasoning? Some reasoning examples such as why is it drier, whats holding up the fronts just south of the Mason Dixon line, the unusual dominance of the Canadian weather highs for this time of the year for our area, the role of the Bermuda High with the formation afternoon t- storms, the fact that July is normally the wettest month of the year, the lack of convective storms in our area, the lack of tropical storm development and the list goes on. Thanks

thats ten more drops than me in Lower macungie. Achieving 2 inch PWAT's are in a dreamscape right now. The air is so dry and then any available moisture is sucked out in the stratus clouds before the dying front comes through. The stress on the turf is pretty nasty right now too. My garden needs some rain. Cannot remember when the last time a good time cracking /rumbling training t- storms have hit our area. The good ole afternoon t- storms from the Bermuda High are gone as the Canadian HP takes over. This weekend looks pretty cool for July.

Need some rain bad. Lawns are browning pretty good in northern Montgomery County. No drought issues yet. This year has been the weirdest summer in five years. Utility bill will be low compared to other years as 90 degree temps have been scarce and extremely low humidity nights with temps in the 50's in June helped. What rain we have received falls in a single 12 hour period and then is gone for days. We need some tropical storm remnants now. I have to wait until after Wednesday to see the Bermuda High kick in and resume our normal afternoon high PWAT's. July is the wettest month. Hope we can get some of this needed rain on Tuesday. Central PA has been clobbered the past week in heavy rain. Its seems the cold fronts die out in the evening before getting here. Big ole donut hole over the LV as the t- showers have been so localized

Lehigh Valley will take and is grateful. Three inches of rain in a week here in macungie and I am happy. two inches since last week and another inch last night. I am ready to say the end to the drought potential. With the air temps that are not above normal and the the soil temps that are way below normal, I do not expect leaf out until the end of April/early May. With this late leaf out is actually good as the the soil profile will remain moist and groundwater will be recharged until then the leaves uptake the ground moisture. If PWATs exceed 1.5 to 2 inches from next week storms, expect flooding to occur.

You guys are hilarious. The snow is ripping, the yards and roads are caving, its trucking, a huge bag of wtf???? This clip best describes the current situation for you guys\\:

to my fellow snow weenies LMAO . My sister in law just sent me this picture of whats coming our way a few minutes ago-- She lives in Memphis Tn. They already have thundersnow and the visibilities are pretty low. Notice the stickage on their streets and trees and by the way , it was 64 degrees yesterday there.

alot of weenies going to be suprised tomorrow south of the LV. It will stick and accumulate. No sun angle here this time as temps fall and whiteout conditions become a problem with the winds. Bt Tuesday afternoon it will all be gone.

I know alot of you were ribbing the hell out of me about a drought. Well, this as in tonights paper and is why I am concerned: https://www.mcall.com/news/weather/mc-nws-us-expansive-drought-lehigh-valley-abnormally-dry-20220309-olkwcc5rtfcpjhck4nuozal6ai-story.html

well, I say this storm appears to be fizzled out in a hurry. Lets get this winter over with now and bring on the thunderstorms. At 37 degrees, it will take a lot of dynamic cooling and heavier precip then the virga and drizzle I have had this morning. Just do not see it yet.

I say LV is the jackpot for tomorrows event. Would not be surprised if some areas hit six inches on the grass, especially near S Mtn and Blue Mts. At least half dollar size flakes will be nice to see

wow, 73 + degrees today and the 0Z NAM is showing 4-6'' of snow for the LV on Wednesday. Wind gusts well over 45 mph. More freaking branches to pick up from the windiest last six months that I ever seen here. Not much rain however, less than .25 in. The predicted snow on Wednesday may help with some groundwater recharge for our area and keep the spring wildfires down as the ground is almost dry from tonight's northerly winds of 35 mph, even though it rained an hour ago. I also think a WWA may be issued for Wednesday. The snowfall rates appear to be pretty high and may actually accumulate on the road. 4 -6 inches of wet snow on the grass and 1-2 inches of white rain on the road appears to be reasonable expectation if the NAM/RGEM model is spot on.

thanks anyway for the explanation

thanks Mike. But the key here is the term "zones". Zones should be based on physical topographical delinations, not just by county lines or interstate highways. Since the late 80's - early 1990's the NWS started going from the airport offices and went to a regional based approached. I was one of the naysayers back then stated that regionalization of the NWS loses a much needed local perspective of topographical weather issues and places much more emphasis on computer modelogy and not the physical geography characteristics of the ridge and valley region of eastern PA, especially the LV. I really also do not like the idea of a county Emergency Manager setting the storm criteria as the they have no control of the federal and state highway system, PADOT does. Rt 22, Rt 309, Rt 100, Rt 33 and I-78 are the lifeline for the entire trucking industry and the LV residents in PA and I believe PADOT should have a say so at the table too. Cyrious, does each of the zones in Eastern PA being defined by physical geography or just political boundaries? How are these zones formed and what is the basis of each of these zones when assigning criteria for warnings and watches? That has never been really explained to me if you have the time? Again, Thank you for issuing the winter storm watch for Lehigh County by the way.

the main problem , the criteria does not at all match the physical geography of PA, especially for the Lehigh and Northampton Counties. Weather is greatly dependent on physical geography, not the placement of interstates locations. Furthermore, It appears the Fall line is not in agreement with all criteria shown above. The warning criteria should have been set by the physical geographical feature of the Blue Mountains and not the Fall line since many of the specifications concerning satisfying the criteria of winter warnings and watches are very elevation driven and dependent too. Also, many readers of the discussion do not even know where the exact location of the Fall line actually is when mentioned in the discussion. My main gripe is that the winter storm watch/warning criteria for five inches is way too high for the LV which is the fastest growing area of state and as we are no longer rural. Four inches should be the level as that is when the municipal snow plows usually drop the blade and plow as well. The winter weather criteria should have been simply set at the Blue Mts. For the non- believers try going through the Lehigh Tunnel after a usual winter storm event - Snow heaven on the north side, brown grass on the Lehigh/Northampton county south side. Based on this weather pattern we are in, Mt Holly needs to revisit the criteria this summer and change it to a realistic determination, especially for elevation driven winter storm events. Consistency must be utilized if you are going to have a productive warning system in place. Right now, utilizing point forecasts as their driver seat is not working well in these type of weather forecast especially when frozen precip is ingested into the models that are fluctuating as much as they are today, its better to err and issue a winter storm watch. Using confidence levels is not forecasting IMHO, its simple gambling and utilizing computerized weather forecasts which are becoming the rule rather than based on true empirical science data, including physical geography.