North and West

Just now, weatherpruf said:

I never would have guessed....pretty clear the OP meant gasoline. For your edification most Americans colloquially refer to gasoline as gas....which is why my dual fuel generator is advertised as propane and gas.... so take that mister smarty pants

Wait... there are non-Americans on this forum? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hey guys, is it time for IMBY questions, because everything I'm seeing here runs the gamut and I'm exhausted. If it is, what's reasonable for MMU? At this point, I don't care either way, with the exception of being a crippling ice storm and subsequently no heat, hot water, or power. 

2 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

 

Most gas stations have generators after Sandy down here. Regardless, filling up is smart ahead of any storm. 

Right, and they're usually packed with desperate people after a storm, and the cold and icy conditions may hinder replenishment tankers in case they run out.

Just now, bluewave said:

Do your best to clean up whatever mixed precipitation types your location has on the ground Sunday. Anything left on the ground that is in liquid form will freeze up solid. Single digits Monday near the coast with below 0 interior.

 

Good reminder. Get gas today, too, in case there's a lot of freezing rain and power goes out. Pumps won't work sans electricity.

Just now, CIK62 said:

 

 

Gracias.

45 minutes ago, CIK62 said:

JB again warned the next 60 days will see the greatest HDD totals in history for eastern US and western Europe combined.

Will repeat this on Neil Cavuto Show at about 12:45pm today, he mentioned.

 

HDD?

My older son is ready and anxious for it to snow.


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Don't you love a weather pattern like this? Brutal cold followed by cold rain followed by another shot of cold weather, rinse and repeat...

11 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

I was born 1988

So at least you remember the lousy late 1990s winters, They were softened at least by the knowledge that we had two amazing winters in the mid-1990s, and we were paying the bill for them.

3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

hahaha.  Just awful.  Especially with the poor modeling back then-many forecasts of snow and then you'd wake up to rain or nothing at all.   We did have some impressive arctic shots...

I distinctly remember going to bed one night (circa 1990/1991/1992) after Al Roker telling me we could expect 4-8" of snow... and waking up to see it was lightly drizzling and approximately 38 degrees. These things stay with you.

Just now, Dan76 said:

I was just cold but I would pay good money to have '94 again.

That's my all time favorite winter. Basically, the first good winter I could remember, outside of December 1989, but it lasted the entire season.

34 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

The ****ing polar vortex squashed the last 2 storms but it can't help us this weekend ?

 

**** this winter. Might be the worse ever.

My sweet summer child... were you around in the 1980s and early 1990s?

IMBY Question, as I'm trying to catch up on everything from last night: What's this looking like for MMU? I lost power for six days total last March, and would not enjoy that again; the house will get terribly cold when it's zero outside. Plus, tree damage from freezing rain would be horrendous after the March 7th devastation here (20"+ wet snow).

Thanks, as always!

Im still riding it.

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Storm thread analysis:
Latest (insert model) run shows slightly less ideal solution, proclamations of storm is dead, winter is cancelled:
 
(Intermittent banter about overreactions/bad analysis of model output)
15 minutes later, latest (insert model) run shows slightly more ideal solution:
 
 
Rinse, repeat. 

GFS taken literally would be a wild storm. Heavy rain, sleet, freezing rain, then high ratio snow with a flash freeze thrown in.

Just now, David-LI said:

.25" of freezing rain is already very dangerous, imagine 1 inch?

Believe me: none of us want that. Not in the least. With that cold shot coming after it, there will be a lot of people left without heat. I'll take more rain if it means we're warm in the house and I can scroll through this forum on my phone that has a full battery.

tl;dr: I feel for whomever gets that ice, if it occurs.

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Horrible, give me a warm 11/12 winter then if we're not gonna snow. 

Hopefully the models continue to modify the cold behind it.

It's good, though; it's good to control insect populations with fewer places to hide in severe cold with snowcover.

Of course I enjoy storms, that's why we're here; there's just something to be said for dry and cold.

Just now, Brian5671 said:

GFS-verbatim a couple inches then heavy rain for NYC.    

Sounds like 1994;  I distinctly remember there being a large temperature delta between MMU and CPK during one of the January storms.

2 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Only the 5th time on record that NYC couldn’t drop below 20 degrees from 12/1 to 1/14.

1	2013-01-14	22	0
2	2019-01-14	20	1
-	2002-01-14	20	0
-	1975-01-14	20	0
-	1932-01-14	20	0

Interesting. 

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Pretty wild how November still stands as the coldest NYC temperature of 15 and biggest snowstorm at 6.4” this far into January. It may be a first for a November max  snowfall and min temperature to persist past January 15th.

You know, for the 140+ years of CPK record-keeping, it was bound to happen. It may just be .7% chance of occurring, and this year was that .7%.

41 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said:

I find it interesting that Team Torch were the predominant posters throughout the snowless first half of Met Winter, disappear over the weekend when the models trended cold and snowy/icy for next weekend then all of a sudden reappear magically when the models start torching again.  Like clockwork

In any event, nobody should be declaring anything snow or not 5-6 days in advance. As we know all too well, the models will flip flop the next several days (windshield wiper effect) so in other words, lets check back in on Thursday. The signal is there for a big storm, that's all we know at this point.

Ha! The Adventures of Team Torch™ and The Snow Squad™

I wish I had a camera back then  that first storm caused such high snowfall rates along with lightning and thunder that you could literally see the snow piling up!  It went from nothing during the morning rush hour to a wall of white by 10 AM!
 

I was 11 also

I remember several things about that Tuesday, February 8th: We got to school (I was in sixth grade), and watched the snow start in English class, then moved on to Gym class, where I remember opening the door to the outside of the locker room and it being just a wall of white.

Later that evening, when I got home, I remember my dad (who had told me many previous times that any snow in the preceding years was “not a real storm” and would regale me with stories of the 1960-1961 and proceeding winters) mentioning how coming home on Route 3 was an absolute nightmare (he had a briefcase cellphone at the time), and that he hadn’t seen something like this in years. He then told me, “Now this is a real winter.”

Again, my all-time favorite. It had everything; snow, ice, record cold, long duration, plus I was 11.

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That was a fun week