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	the model solutions change on every model run - still 9 + days away out of forecasting range.......
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	Need the ridge out west to move away from the coast into the Rockies for a more favorable snowstorm pattern along the east coast which would also favor a better chance of negatively tilted trough axis in the east......another crucial ingredient needed is a Negative NAO along with a strong anchored HP in southeast Canada....
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	here we go again with the GFS long range
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	so what ingredient(s) were missing ?
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	then should ask Tropical Tidbits creator Levy Cowan why ?
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	The GFS is a model loaded with mistakes in the coding which causes glitches in the output - also its obvious the GFS can't be trusted anymore past 60 hours and should be treated similar to the NAM - how many wild goose chases have we sent on with wrapped up blizzards several days in advance here over the last few years to eventually fizzle out in future runs ? That is what helped create this thread prematurely...
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	Its obvious we aren't going to get much with a positively tilted trough axis
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	this is as close Euro gets to us
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	the 0Z Euro Suite will determine which side of the fence we are on with this potential and will have an impact on the BOM output,,,,,,
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	have a comparison to 12Z ?
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	I think it could be similar to todays event with the heavier amounts south of the area and 1 - 4 in the metro.......as of now....although any banding could produce 4 - 8 in those areas
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	However you want to define it - BUT I am siding with the voice of reason on this one - Walt- he tells it like it is and doesn't wishcast.......
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	its still hanging the energy back in the southwest right ?
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	which models that are 0Z or 12Z ?
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	agree 100 % - I think too many folks are jumping the gun on this one based on 2 runs of a GFS OP and the 12Z Euro a complete miss of the phase and out to sea - need more support for the GFS solution to support a storm scenario......
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	unfortunately until the Euro shows that it doesn't agree yet and the GFS can easily lose the phase at 0Z
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	The 18Z is still using old data from earlier the real test will be when the new data is injected into the model at 0Z ........
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	Bernie is confused too:
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	now honestly which one would you put your money on ?
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	if the Euro OP and ensemblles were even close to the GFS I wouldn't be discounting the GFS but its hard to get a phase with that setup. And we are only 5-6 days away
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	of course the GFS ensembles will side with the GFS OP
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	I meant the Euro Ensembles.........I am discounting the entire GFS Suite. Look how they mislead us on this event with all the amped up members
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	no post them for us ?
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	Euro and Canadian basically miss - GFS is wrong AGAIN as usual....NYC snow drought continues with no end in sight
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	when is the last time it verified a MECS or greater over the last few years for our area ? Its shown them quite a few times over that time period
 
