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dude....dont even lol. I've been defending western Nassau so people realize how much different the snowfall climatology is here vs eastern LI and you just had to come here and post this lol.
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I remember you got royally screwed that year even with how cold it was, the storms mostly tracked east of you. That March one was actually the one I liked the most, that storm was a long conveyor belt of snow! The other thing I remember was that even that late in the season the SST were so cold we were getting freezing drizzle on an east wind lol...SST was 31, never seen that before! That was thanks to the -10 Feb we had, including a single digit reading on the last day of Feb (one day away from it being in March, which I'd also never experienced before!)
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I actually liked 2014-15 more than 2013-14, it was colder and snowier at the end than 2013-14 was.
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yall who are complaining about Jan 2015 just be glad it wasn't Mar 2001...the other thing about 2014-15 was that it ended being a historic season even with that slight bust and with how February and March went, I'd pretty much forgotten about that January storm.
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fwiw snowstorm anatomy is fascinating, it's interesting to see which area gets what as each event has its own unique personality. Jan 2015 was a slight bust, but compared to say March 2001 it was absolutely delightful lol
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yep overrunning is usually where we make our snow around here lol, some of the biggest ones were mostly overrunning moisture attacking arctic air like Feb 83 and PD2 and probably a few others I'm forgetting.
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thats awful and I saw that it could reach 60 mph- that puts it in the Boxing Daty 2010 range, Walt!
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this also nicely illustrates the geographic differences between Montauk, Westhampton, and JFK
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a few storms where you did really well and the city and western nassau did not would be Dec 2009, Feb 2013, Jan 2015. And also the middle storm in Jan 2011. We must quality that we're talking about relative wellness here lol.....10" is what we got in those (except Dec 2009 which was 15") but you all got 20-25 in those storms!
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that makes sense, although if you look at the latest runs of the Euro/NAM/GFS/paraGFS they all have over a foot of snow at JFK.
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exactly what I was thinking. I'd extend that line from Toms River up to about the Hamptons and then a more gradual change from there on west and north.
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yup and somehow Monmouth County still beats all of us haha
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so you like the disco put out by Upton?
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that storm was the GOAT for greatest coverage of 30"+ inch over the largest population I've ever seen from any storm.
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didnt get it in Boxing Day 2010? We saw it here in Jan 2016.
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the issue I have is treating long island like a conglomerate, eastern LI is 100 miles east of here lol, a big difference when it comes to a storm like this. It may still mix this far west but it wont matter in terms of accumulations. I also included a list of 3 storms where JFK mixed some and still beat NYC in accumulations. I should also include the Millenium storm which didn't mix here but did just to our east on a further west track than this so that would make it 4 storms.
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I saw the text description and the model maps, Walt, I think there should be a greater separation made between the eastern half of Suffolk County vs western Nassau County (whether south or north) in terms of the forecasts being put out just based on the maps. I like the map you posted here, with 13-15 from SW Nassau to NYC, and lower totals (possibly half of that) on the twin forks. They're about 100 miles east of here so that would make a huge difference of course.
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I can give you a list of storms where JFK beat NYC even though JFK had some mixing and NYC did not.....Feb 1961 and Feb 1994 (second storm) are two examples, and March 1993 is also on that list.
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right thats happened quite often where over a foot can fall even so, so it just becomes academic. also the coast needs to be defined better, big difference between say montauk and lynbrook.
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NAM doesn't list any totals for NYC or LI- that's weird
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paraGFS and NAM have been doing better than the Euro for awhile now
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you seem to think it's going to mix at the coast, Walt, however to me it looks like besides the twin forks and south of Toms River, this isn't going to mix, seems like OKX is leaning the same way?
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January 2021 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Stormlover74's topic in New York City Metro
Thanks, Don, can you give me an estimate for JFK- I'm inferring you'd say 12-18? and please one for MPO if you would?